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Ohio woman sues sperm bank after racial mix-up

 
 
Miller
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2014 11:41 am
@Moment-in-Time,
Thank you, but I've already explained everything, that needs to be explained. I suggest you re-read what I posted and where I ask a question, it's not because I don't know the answer, it's because I want the reader(s) to focus on the important issues of the post.

Stay peaceful and re-read everything, for your own information. Please do not jump to any conclusions, based on what you thought I said, or based on what the authors of several papers had to say on the subject.

I hope I've clarified the issue of "the albino".
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 07:20 am
@maxdancona,
Yeah I think they do -- it ain't like you are ordering a pizza -- just a little more involved than that.

I do think they deserve something - just often times you see people sue happy -- so at first it seemed well why wouldn't they sue when she was pregnant and they were told? Why would they wait 2 years? Did a lawyer find out and suggest it?

But as someone was pointing out-- perhaps they really didn't realize the impact until the child was more involved with other children as she got older. It wasn't so much that they do not deserve something for a mistake of this importance, just to me why did it take them two years to decide to do so.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 07:24 am
@hawkeye10,
The other thing I was just thinking -- just because the donor is blue eyed and blond haired doesn't mean they will pass those genes onto their child. So there is no guarantee the result of the child.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 07:26 am
@BillRM,
I can see that no one wants to touch this in interview -- imagine the backlash. To be honest I was afraid of even mentioning here as someone calling me out as homo-phobic or something - fortunately it doesn't seem anyone took it that way.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 07:40 am
@Linkat,
I'm surprised anyone would go public with this story. I contracted a company, they did not provide service as promised, I sue them. I get all of that. Going to the press with the story - that I don't get. Even if the press got wind via another avenue, a simple "no comment" nips it in the bud. Why put your child's parentage all over the tabloids? This is way to sensational for me to intentionally expose my family to.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 03:31 pm
@engineer,
Agree completely. It is entirely unnecessary for this story to go public. It won't enhance the plaintiff's chances of a favorable result, and it could be detrimental to the child.

The lesbian couple is going to have a hard time convincing a jury that if only their daughter had blond hair and blue eyes there would be no possibility of her standing out like a sore thumb in their small all white town. I doubt there are many other kids in that town's school who have two Moms.

Somehow they seem to have found a small town in Ohio where everyone is racially intolerant, but very tolerant of lesbian couples with children who are white. Or maybe they found a small town of racially intolerant lesbians.

In addition, to prove their claimed damages they are going to have to offer some proof that the townspeople are racially intolerant. Maybe they can and maybe that's why it's taken two years to get around to suing, but if they can't, and they lose in court they will probably have forced themselves to move. I can't imagine that a small town like this one where everyone has to know each other is going to be too happy about being described in newspapers and tv across the nation as racially intolerant.

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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 06:18 pm
I think it's a nightmare that a sperm bank should make such a mistake. That's one reason for this law suit and going public about it--to warn the public that these places are not always carefully regulated and mistakes can be made. And, personally, I don't think that just refunding the cost of the sperm covers the damage done, or the degree of difficulty added to these people's lives, including this child's. Anyone who thinks it's just as easy to grow up and live in this country without being subjected to racial bias if you are non-white, as it is if you are white, is out of their minds--and probably white. And a same-sex couple, both of whom are white, might well not want their child to have an additional layer of "differentness" in terms of physical appearance from them--they weren't adopting, they chose a white sperm donor in order to have a white biological child. The plan was to use this sperm donor a second time, with the other mother carrying that fetus, so their children would also be biologically related.

The fact this woman is lesbian is absolutely irrelevant to the legal situation, although a number of people have referred to her sexual orientation as though it was a relevant factor of some sort. A heterosexual white couple who planned on using the husband's sperm for artificial insemination could find they had been given a black donor's sperm instead. Or they could find they had simply been given a black donor instead of a white one they selected, so that now their second child was racially mixed while their first child was white. And they'd likely be as upset as these women are--it's about what people want and expect when they use a sperm bank to plan and conceive children. The negligence in this case was awful.

One legal expert's take on it...
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Her complaint, if true, cries out for some legal penalty to attach to Midwest’s conduct. She lists a buffoonish set of errors, including taking the order over the phone—in ink, and with no electronic backup; the subsequent mistranscription of the anonymous sperm donor’s number (“330” was written for “380”); and a receptionist who seems to have doubled down on the error before Cramblett became pregnant, when it could have still been corrected. And to top it off, upon realizing the mistake, the company’s receptionist … hung up on Cramblett. The company did send her a letter of apology (oops!), and refunded the purchase price of the offending sperm. (The complaint doesn’t say how much that was, but it appears the price can vary substantially depending on a number of factors, including donor profile and sperm motility. One news report put the amount in this case at unspecified “thousands.”)

But is that all Cramblett should get? She’s asking to be compensated for her emotional distress, her medical expenses, and other “economic and non-economic losses.” Most of the complaint is about the emotional pain and suffering. She describes the difficulty of living with Payton in an all-white community, with its “stereotypical attitudes.” One of Cramblett’s uncles, for example, “speaks openly and derisively about people of color.” And she acknowledges her own limited cultural competence. (For instance, Mom has found it “stressful” to go into a “black neighborhood” in order to get Payton “a decent [hair]cut.”)

Some of these concerns are understandable, but she probably can’t recover anything for having to deal with them. In Palmore v. Sidoti, the Supreme Court said, although in the somewhat different context of child custody, that “the law cannot, directly or indirectly” give such “private biases … effect.” That probably means the money damages that courts allow juries to award in tort cases, like this one, aren’t available even if the family’s life will be hard because of bigotry..,

Whether we empathize with her or not, Cramblett is likely to run into another wall in trying to get compensated for her own heartache. Although sperm donor mix-up cases are rare, a New York court’s 2007 decision probably reflects the position the Illinois courts will take in this case. In Andrews v. Keltz, the judge rejected an almost identical claim for emotional distress. There, a Dominican mother and a white father had used in vitro fertilization in their effort to conceive their own biological child. But when the mother gave birth to a girl who was darker than both of them, they sued the clinic that had screwed up by using sperm other than the dad’s. The judge tossed out the emotional distress claim, citing a New York case that held “as a matter of public policy[,] we are unable to hold that the birth of an unwanted but otherwise healthy and normal child constitutes an injury to the child’s parents.”

In fact, the very name these cases often go by—wrongful birth—isn’t exactly engineered to lead to success. In reality, the cases typically involve garden-variety negligence: Someone mislabeled a vial, someone else didn’t properly clean the sperm spinner, and so on. But courts in many states have slapped the wrongful-birth label on these cases, as a way to signal there’s something sort of creepy about suing over the birth of a child. Wrongful birth? Really? We are talking about kids, right?

Yet courts recognize that something has indeed gone wrong in these cases, perhaps because regulation of these clinics is spotty and inconsistent from state to state. So they struggle to find and award some measure of recovery, if only to send a message to the defendants that they need to put better procedures into place. In Andrews, the court said that the father had a claim in connection with the mishandling of his sperm (apparently because it led to uncertainty about what had happened to his “contribution”). Here, the court could decide to award Jennifer Cramblett the cost she says she’ll need to absorb in relocating to “a racially diverse community with good schools.” That would make sense, and would also be a good and committed step for the family to take. If the case is successful, that’s a creative remedy.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/10/ohio_sperm_bank_black_donor_mix_up_can_a_white_mother_with_a_biracial_baby.html


I think I would like to see this family get a monetary award from this suit, to help them re-locate elsewhere they think their child would have an easier time of it. I also think that might be a creative remedy for the kind of situation that doesn't have many. She's a beautiful little girl.


Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 09:04 am
@firefly,
It is also difficult to understand if you do not live an area like they do. It is hard for me to understand whythe Mom has found it “stressful” to go into a “black neighborhood” in order to get Payton “a decent [hair]cut.”) - as I am near so many towns where there are "black neighborhoods" and actually they are more mixed neighborhoods it seems so odd to get stressed about it. But then I don't live in the middle of Ohio.

The homosexual reference is (not that there isn't other difficulties with bi-racial children) -- they seem so concerned about how the baby will fit in living in such a closed minded community - it seems they didn't think it through of the difficulty with two moms in a closed minded community. Not that the sperm bank should be held accountable for their actions - but they may have felt they needed to relocate because of the child being different no matter the color.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 09:12 am
@Linkat,
When I was growing up in the 1960's, there were several sets of adult cousins living together (including my Grade 8 teacher) that I would now recognize as same sex couples. I think it is still easier to hide being a same sex couple than it is to hide being a mixed-race family.

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 11:41 am
@firefly,
The couple being lesbian does make a legal difference, not in whether or not they have a right to sue, but in whether or not they have the damages they claim. Unless they've constructed some story to hide the fact that they are lesbians (which if this was the case, it's now, by the publicity they've sought, completely shot) and the town is as intolerant as the woman claims, the young girl would very likely still have been stigmatized if she was white, blonde and had blue eyes. It defies credulity that they live in a small town of racially intolerant people who have no problem tolerating lesbian parents.

Clearly the sperm bank made a huge mistake which seems to demand more than simply the return of its fee, but if the woman's cause of action is to go beyond simple breach of contract, she must prove damages as a result of the sperm bank's negligence. It's not usually enough to simply say, "They made a mistake and it caused me emotional distress and now I have to move." If it was, there would be no need for the discovery process and a trial.

You can be certain that the defendant's lawyer will ask the woman if she loves her child and if she would "undo" her birth if she could, to which we can expect her to answer "Yes" and "No" respectively.

It might be logical that the woman would have anxiety over whether or not her daughter would be accepted in her small town, but I don't believe she get's to assume the townspeople are all racially intolerant, or rely on the fact that her uncle is, to paint everyone else as racist. No matter where they move there will always be the possibility of confrontation with one or two racially insensitive people, and so unless there have already been numerous incidents and reason to believe they will continue, she won't be able to make a good case.

Keep in mind this woman has talked to lawyers before she gave her interviews and, while its possible, its unlikely that they advised her to not give the interviews and there is a good chance they coached her on what to say based on what they thought their best case was. This doesn't mean that she is necessarily insincere in her concern or complaints, but it is a possibility to consider.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 01:21 pm
@Linkat,
I think this woman's stress about having to travel some distance to get her child a proper haircut reflects her general distress that her child won't fit in in that community--not socially or in the school. But it also is a reminder of the sort of thing she wouldn't have to do if the child were white--as she is--and as she wanted.

We should stop pretending we live in a harmonious diverse country. It may be diverse, but racism is alive and well. That child will be subjected to more prejudice than if she were white, and she will feel different if there are no other children or adults who look like her, and that will likely cause her parents to have to make all sorts of accommodations for her benefit--like moving elsewhere. Our bi-racial President has been insulted with all sorts of vile racist comments and images, so it shouldn't surprise anyone to think the same might happen to a little girl in a tiny lily white rural town. The mother, who grew up in that town, never met any black people until she went to college.

I don't find any of this woman's distress hard to understand. Having a baby of a color other than what you planned for, and arranged for, would jolt and shock any couples, whether heterosexual or homosexual. Very few women, I would imagine, walk into a sperm bank and say, "Surprise me."

Problem is, the law provides no good remedies for cases like these, with sperm mix-ups. You can't return the child or exchange it, and, as long as the child is healthy, the courts tend to rule there is no injury to the parents. But, I think it's hard to see where there isn't emotional injury done when you conceive and carry a child that turns out to be a different color than the one you thought you were giving birth to. Not only did the sperm bank mix up the sperm, they didn't let her know about it until she was in her second trimester. Had they let her know in a much more timely fashion, she could have had the option of terminating the pregnancy.

And, if anything, a same sex couple already possibly dealing with bias, because of their sexual orientation, might suffer even more distress because of the introduction of racial factors in their lives. Whatever social difficulties or stresses they had before, this sperm mix-up would compound, particularly in the area they're living in now.

Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 01:37 pm
@firefly,
I guess what I was saying is I cannot fully appreciate how she must feel - just in the fact that I have not lived in an area like that. Having pretty much grown up and been around diverse areas. Even where I live now, although no where near as diverse as where I grew up, you are just on the outskirts of many other cities and towns that are very diverse -- just a hop skip and jump away so you can pretty much cover any racial or ethinic background.

I mean it just seems almost foreign to me that you would have to drive more than 10 or 15 minutes to have a hair stylist specializing in hair for African Americans.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 01:50 pm
@firefly,
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I think this woman's stress about having to travel some distance to get her child a proper haircut reflects her general distress that her child won't fit in in that community--not socially or in the school. But it also is a reminder of the sort of thing she wouldn't have to do if the child were white--as she is--and as she wanted
Lets also remember that one of the couple was traumatized the second she realized the baby looked black, by her own account. I think that is in the lawsuit but I might have seen it in an interview.

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Problem is, the law provides no good remedies for cases like these, with sperm mix-ups. You can't return the child or exchange it
Though there was a recent case of a surrogacy situation where the baby was born defective and so the intended couple said " no thanks, we dont want it anymore, you keep it".
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 01:56 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
Not only did the sperm bank mix up the sperm, they didn't let her know about it until she was in her second trimester. Had they let her know in a much more timely fashion, she could have had the option of terminating the pregnancy.


from what I recall they didn't reach out to tell her there was a mix-up, since they didn't identify it until she called to put more of the same sperm on hold for a second child

if the couple hadn't been planning on a second child, the mix-up wouldn't have been discovered until the birth
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 01:58 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:
I mean it just seems almost foreign to me that you would have to drive more than 10 or 15 minutes to have a hair stylist specializing in hair for African Americans.


there are a few former A2k posters I'm friends with on FB who live in quite rural parts of the US - plenty of high school football game pix with no sign of any black or mixed-race people in the Ozarks. I think you'd have to travel hours to find a hairdresser who knew how to work with African American hair in some of those locations.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 02:01 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The couple being lesbian does make a legal difference, not in whether or not they have a right to sue, but in whether or not they have the damages they claim. Unless they've constructed some story to hide the fact that they are lesbians (which if this was the case, it's now, by the publicity they've sought, completely shot)


"the story being shot" could increase the value of the damages they may end up receiving. I suspect the sperm bank's insurer is trying to find a way to settle this now (if they weren't paying attention to this before).
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 02:03 pm
@ehBeth,
I'm certainly not doubting it -- but I have never experienced it. Kinda sad in my opinion.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 02:06 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The couple being lesbian does make a legal difference, not in whether or not they have a right to sue, but in whether or not they have the damages they claim. Unless they've constructed some story to hide the fact that they are lesbians (which if this was the case, it's now, by the publicity they've sought, completely shot)


"the story being shot" could increase the value of the damages they may end up receiving. I suspect the sperm bank's insurer is trying to find a way to settle this now (if they weren't paying attention to this before).


Doubtful, as from my read the contract gives no grounds to sue.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 02:07 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:

Clearly the sperm bank made a huge mistake which seems to demand more than simply the return of its fee, but if the woman's cause of action is to go beyond simple breach of contract, she must prove damages as a result of the sperm bank's negligence. It's not usually enough to simply say, "They made a mistake and it caused me emotional distress and now I have to move." If it was, there would be no need for the discovery process and a trial.

The damage was being inseminated by sperm she didn't want and she wasn't informed that had happened in a timely manner.

This isn't a breach of contract suit, it's a wrongful child suit.

Most people can understand the emotional distress that results from that situation, I don't think anyone has to prove that. The problem is, the courts haven't seen fit to compensate these sperm errors monetarily, and they probably won't in this case either. These things go by precedent.

This is from the legal opinion I posted previously...
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Although sperm donor mix-up cases are rare, a New York court’s 2007 decision probably reflects the position the Illinois courts will take in this case. In Andrews v. Keltz, the judge rejected an almost identical claim for emotional distress. There, a Dominican mother and a white father had used in vitro fertilization in their effort to conceive their own biological child. But when the mother gave birth to a girl who was darker than both of them, they sued the clinic that had screwed up by using sperm other than the dad’s. The judge tossed out the emotional distress claim, citing a New York case that held “as a matter of public policy[,] we are unable to hold that the birth of an unwanted but otherwise healthy and normal child constitutes an injury to the child’s parents.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/10/ohio_sperm_bank_black_donor_mix_up_can_a_white_mother_with_a_biracial


But just the money to relocate, to deal with consequences of unexpectedly having a bi-racial child, seems entirely fair and reasonable in a situation like this one--they aren't seeking punitive damages for the sperm error itself, but simply for some economic consequences of the error. I do hope they might get that money to move.

You can't claim that a lesbian couple was likely already discriminated against, so they can't assert that having a bi-racial child made their situation any worse. If this was a white heterosexual couple, living in that same tiny lily white town, with their bi-racial child that was due to a sperm mix-up at a sperm bank, they'd likely be equally concerned about the best way to accommodate their child's social well being, and might also think about moving.

You're right---" Clearly the sperm bank made a huge mistake which seems to demand more than simply the return of its fee..."

So, what do you think it should demand?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 02:08 pm
@Linkat,
Yup. Agreed on the sad.

About 15 years ago I went to an out-of-town golf tournament with some friends from work.

We were in a small town in rural Ontario. Every time our group walked from the motel (yes, one motel in town) to the place that served breakfast, people driving would slow down and look us over. One of our team-mates was black and, according to the guy who ran the tournament, he was probably the first black person most locals had seen other than on television/movies.
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