Vaping is all the rage!!

Didn't read a one of them, did you?

So, post your own.

Yeah, drug companies on one side, Big Tobacco on the other. I remain skeptical until something conclusive comes in from an impartial source. Of course, with the influence coming from behind the scenes, who's to say who's impartial?

One thing to be noted: They always publish studies that prove a product is safe, when they go after your money. Then, months or even years later, you find out the studies were flawed or even faked. Almost every time the FDA approves of drugs that they then advertise on TV and rake in a billion dollars gets lawsuits because they caused bleeding to death, or cancer, or fill in the blank. Vaping may turn out to be safe enough. Glad I am not the one to find out.

Impartial? I don't see it happening.

A clear concensus in the community of relevant experts.

FBM wrote:

A clear concensus in the community of relevant experts.

I'm going to require clarification on clear...:-)

I wonder what happened with that cancer thing. We were calling cigarettes 'cancer sticks' and 'coffin nails' back in the '50s. They're still here.

roger wrote:

I wonder what happened with that cancer thing. We were calling cigarettes 'cancer sticks' and 'coffin nails' back in the '50s. They're still here.

Yeah, people still have the right to do unhealthy things, but at least they're making informed poor choices.

The problem is taking sides and waving flags before the consensus is reached. If you'll forgive me for saying so, that's what you seem to be doing with your anti-e-cig posts.

Didn't read a one of them, did you?

So, post your own.

FBM wrote:

The problem is taking sides and waving flags before the consensus is reached. If you'll forgive me for saying so, that's what you seem to be doing with your anti-e-cig posts.

That's preposterous...we have a good number of studies to indicate direction. The FDA seems to agree.

Germlat wrote:

FBM wrote:

The problem is taking sides and waving flags before the consensus is reached. If you'll forgive me for saying so, that's what you seem to be doing with your anti-e-cig posts.

That's preposterous...we have a good number of studies to indicate direction. The FDA seems to agree.

Am I (and others) wrong in thinking that I see a clear bias in your presentation on this issue? There are studies both pro and con, but no overall consensus. You seem to be cherry picking the cons, but I'm suspending judgement altogether until the science is clear. I'm fine if it eventually agrees with your preferred



outcome, but until such time, I'm unwilling to make a declaration.

What I'm getting at is that you seem to have pre-judged it as practically deadly without waiting for the scientific community at large to decide. Also, there's a difference between healthy, relatively healthy and safe. I doubt anybody thinks that they're going to improve their health by vaping, which would be implied by the adjective "healthy."