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Muslims – They Immigrate, But Do They Assimilate?

 
 
Reply Tue 25 May, 2004 12:55 pm
I'm not so sure about some of the sweeping statements in this article, but even if it's only partially true it still indicates a big problem that the planet will have to deal with sooner or later.

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Commentary by Tom Segal
May 25, 2004

Living next to the Texas-Mexico border gives one a different view of life than is experienced by most Americans. On one side of the Rio Grande are millions of Mexicans willing to risk anything to cross that ribbon of muddy water. North of the riverbank is another population made up of citizens, legal residents and undocumented workers. Ethnically, 90% of this population is Hispanic.

If you remove the divisiveness of politics and ask people how they view themselves or those around them, most will say they are Americans. Many will say they are Texans. Few, if any, claim allegiance to Mexico or any Latin American country.

The culture here is also unique. From food to festivals we all call it Tex-Mex. The richest in culture, customs and traditions of both nations have been blended into a way of life, which might seem strange to some, but proves to be very rewarding for those of us who make our homes in the Rio Grande Valley.

Now view this cultural assimilation by both Hispanic and Anglo along the U.S. border with what exists in countries experiencing immigration by Muslims.

France has seen a large Muslim immigration, primarily from Algeria, Senegal and Mali. These people have never been totally accepted by the French citizenry. The Muslim population is estimated at 4 to 5 million in a country of 60 million people.

The country has seen an explosion of mosques, with numbers now in excess of 1,200. With a growing resentment toward the immigrants, these mosques increase the anxiety about Muslims felt by the French Christian community. The large number of young Muslims who claim no allegiance to France, but instead claim to be Islamists further heightens this anxiety.

France does have a radical-Muslim problem. This militant version of Islam is not being imported, but is increasingly homegrown. It includes not only Muslims on the fringe of French society, but hundreds of highly educated and westernized French Muslims who are becoming intoxicated with the holy-war ideology being preached throughout western Europe. When asked, most will deny any involvement or assimilation into French culture.

Muslim immigration to Germany has been primarily from Turkey. Since 1990 there has been an increase in Muslim asylum seekers from Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan. This has grown that immigrant population to about 2.5 million.

In Germany, Muslim youth are following an Iranian concept, which is known as "the new holy-war community of believers." It recognizes no national or ethnic identity. It even shows distain for traditional Islamic values. This new doctrine is one, which The Weekly Standard calls," a belief that suicide and murder become sacred acts of believers who want to bring about a purifying Apocalypse."

Holland has seen a thirty-year experiment in trying to develop a tolerant multicultural society fail. Government officials claim their worst mistake was to encourage Muslim children to speak Turkish, Arabic or Berber in elementary school, instead of Dutch. The result… 850,000 Muslims who have failed to assimilate into the nation's culture, import spouses from their home countries, are creating militant enclaves, actively preach Jihad and work to built a terrorist networks in this nation of only 16 million people.

Our most important ally Great Britain has not been immune to a growing Muslim presence. In 1951 there were only 23,000 Muslims in the country. Fifty years later that figure had expanded to 2 million. In addition to a documented Muslim immigrant population made up primarily of Pakistanis, Indians and Bangladeshis, there has been a large influx of undocumented Arabs and Somalis whose numbers are disputed.

That these are true asylum seekers is suspect. They have been seen by the thousands in mosques listening to anti-western Islamic rhetoric. It is known some are taking lessons in making incendiary devices and other weapons of terror. Even France, with Muslim problems of its own, has warned Britain that many of those it is sheltering under the asylum system are terrorists.

According to Frontpagemag.com, French intelligence services have even provided the names of known terrorists living in Great Britain and told the British which mosques these terrorists attend. Nothing has been done and Britain's Muslim problem continues

Currently there are about 23 million Muslims residing in Europe. Of course, these are not all fundamentalists. In all fairness in must be noted that many Muslims have become westernized. By accepting western values and lifestyle, they have also made themselves targets to the more militant of Islamic factions. There is major conflict between the new western approach to life and what those who claim to be Islamists demand. Those Muslims who adopt western ways are also the enemy in the eyes of fundamentalists.

Islamic fundamentalist hatred of all things western is something, which baffles both Europeans and Americans. This hatred is a rejection of western civilization, not only for what it is, but also for the values it professes. Among the Islamists, those who promote or accept this life style are enemies of God.

In Islam the war between good and evil has both political and military dimensions. By their philosophy, according to Bernard Lewis writing in Atlantic Monthly, "If the fighters in a war for Islam, the holy war in the path of God, are fighting for God, it follows that their opponents are fighting against God. And since God is in principle, the sovereign, the supreme head of the Islamic state…then God as sovereign commands the army." Lewis goes on to write, "The duty of God's soldiers is to dispatch God's enemies as quickly as possible to the place where God will chastise them, that is to say, the afterlife."

Islam is more than religion. It is also the politics or Muslims and the platform on which Muslims base their militancy. As this radical version of the faith has grown, it has destroyed the culture of a great people. Once leading the world in art, science and education, militant Islam has reduced every land where it flourishes to that of a Third World country. It has triggered more warfare than any faith. As a quick exercise try to think of two or three wars raging in the world that do not involve Islam.

Muslims in America have found open hostility since the events of September 11, 2001. Some leaders of the Islamic community have been urging Muslims to return to the countries of their origin. Other leaders have been urging the establishment of stronger Islamic communities here in the United States. While traditional Islamic law states Muslims should reside in their own lands, it also concedes that Muslims may live in non-Muslim lands as long as they fulfill their religious obligations.

Observers see the Muslim community as being very conflicted because of the pronouncements by its own leadership. Increasing the conflict is the fact that Muslims born in the United States are more open, more tolerant and less sectarian. This creates divisions, which have detrimental effects within these closed communities. Regardless of being U.S. born or immigrant, all Muslims in America share similar views on international Muslim politics, the hypocrisy of United States foreign policy, and negative media reports about Muslims.

Viewed from the western perspective, Muslim immigration into the United States is becoming a concern. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the nation. In just over thirty years, immigration from the mid-east has changed from being about 15% to 73% of immigrants being Muslim. From a small number in the 1970s, the mid-eastern immigrants have grown to an estimated 2.5 million.

Within this body of immigrants we have already found terror cells, terror finance operations and those who support fundamentalist ideas. We have also seen that that Muslim support of America's War on Terror has been weak at best. There have been a few letters to newspapers, sound bites on television news and interviews where Muslim leaders go through the motions of expressing sorrow at the loss of 3,000 innocent lives or words of encouragement of the people of America. Missing has been any real expression of outrage at any terrorist act.

Now our own government, in an attempt to be politically correct says, "We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with terror!" A nation cannot be at war with an outcome. Terror is an outcome of militant Islam.

With all of these things unfolding, there is now even a movement to modify language. We are being told that it is not a preaching of Islam to hate. They even tell us that Islam really means "peace". This is a new definition by any stretch. What Islam means is "submission". It is the objective of Islam to have all non-believers submit. If they will not do so willingly, they will be forced into submission.

We cannot speak for those countries in Europe, but there is one thing all Islamists should quickly learn about America….it doesn't submit to anyone.

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Jim
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2004 01:02 am
Let's assume for a moment that sovereign nations have the right to set their own immigration policies. I would think most nations would have a humanitarian obligation to allow some number of refugees settle in their countries - but beyond that, the priority should be given to immigrants with skills needed in the host country.

If this is the case, then what is the benefit to a country to admit immigrants who choose not to assimilate?

I have personally known many immigrants to the United States who are Muslims and who have assimilated as well as my family did 100 years ago. But I do wonder what percentage of the current immigrants this will hold true for. Unfortunately, we will only know the answer to this decades in the future, though perhaps an indication can be gleamed from our Western European friends.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2004 01:21 am
I have Muslim relatives who are completely assimilated, and part of a family that includes Jews and Catholics as well. I really tire of this kind of propaganda.

I'm not saying that terrorism isn't going to be a continuing threat, but to lump an entire religion into one pigeonhole is just naive and narrow-minded. Should America start restricting immigration? Let me post a hypothetical argument: With the orchestration of the 9/11 attack, Osama bin Laden effectively caused America to erode the freedoms they apparently value so highly. The Patriot Act is a fine example.

I am in no way defending the horrid attack. It sickened me. I am only pointing out that in this particular conflict, perhaps these American-trained terrorists know more about how America thinks than Americans do.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2004 02:45 am
Does not assimilated = terrorist?

Rolls eyes...
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mporter
 
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Reply Wed 26 May, 2004 04:00 am
cavfancier clearly shows that Canadians know NOTHING about the United States. He mouths the tired shibboleth about the Patriot Act. He apparently knows NOTHING about the Patriot Act.

I will fill him in on several important points.

As much as the left wing and know nothing Canadians would like to place the blame for thealleged problems in the Act on President Bush, The entire Senate of the US voted for the Patriot Act( yes, even the Chappaquiddick kid and Senator Kerry) with the exception of one Senator, the Senator from my state---Russell Finegold.
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