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What if no religions are correct, but there still is a God?

 
 
jerlands
 
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Reply Sun 24 Dec, 2017 04:59 pm
@Leadfoot,
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/jerlands/Monkey_1.jpg
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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Sun 24 Dec, 2017 06:32 pm
If there is no suffering, then there is no God. No matter how intelligent, or handsome, or beautiful you are, you suffer. Please read Ecclesiastes in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible.

jerlands
 
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Reply Sun 24 Dec, 2017 07:58 pm
@peacecrusader888,
peacecrusader888 wrote:
If there is no suffering, then there is no God. No matter how intelligent, or handsome, or beautiful you are, you suffer. Please read Ecclesiastes in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible.


Could you expound a little cause I equate suffering with struggle?
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Wed 27 Dec, 2017 05:52 am
@jerlands,
From the World Book Dictionary, here are what it says about struggle and suffering:
struggle - v., 1 to make great efforts with the body; work hard against difficulties; try hard. Syn: strive, labor, toil, contend. 2 to fight, 3 to get, move, or make one's way with great effort.
suffering - n., 1 the condition of being in pain; pain. Syn: distress, agony, misery. 2 to enduring of pain, trouble, or distress. Syn: distress, agony, misery. - adj. that suffers or is characterized by the suffering of pain, grief, or injury.
jerlands
 
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Reply Wed 27 Dec, 2017 07:00 am
@peacecrusader888,
Merriam-Webster wrote:
Definition of struggle
1 : to make strenuous or violent efforts in the face of difficulties or opposition struggling with the problem
2 : to proceed with difficulty or with great effort struggled through the high grass struggling to make a living

Merriam-Webster wrote:
Definition of suffer
1 a : to submit to or be forced to endure suffer martyrdom
b : to feel keenly : labor under suffer thirst
2 : undergo, experience
3 : to put up with especially as inevitable or unavoidable
4 : to allow especially by reason of indifference

Merriam-Webster wrote:
Definition of war
1 a (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict (3) : state of war
b : the art or science of warfare
c (1) obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war
2 a : a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism
b : a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end a class war a war against disease


This is really the part I was asking definition for...

peacecrusader888 wrote:
If there is no suffering, then there is no God. No matter how intelligent, or handsome, or beautiful you are, you suffer. Please read Ecclesiastes in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible.
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Alan Masterman
 
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Reply Fri 28 Aug, 2020 11:24 am
@Frank Apisa,
I'm sorry Frank, could you develop that a little?
Alan Masterman
 
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Reply Fri 28 Aug, 2020 11:31 am
@oralloy,
Well, screw me... I find myself agreeing with somebody signing himself "white lives matter", who has made easily the most rational comment so far in an extremely messy debate... "Then is judgement day near!" (Hamlet)
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 28 Aug, 2020 11:36 am
@Alan Masterman,
Alan Masterman wrote:

I'm sorry Frank...


For what?

Have you offended me in some way?


Quote:
...could you develop that a little?


Yes,
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Alan Masterman
 
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Reply Fri 28 Aug, 2020 11:36 am
@fresco,
No, Neologist, I can't agree with your opening sentence. "Atheism" should not mean simply that one has no use for a concept of god. Atheism is the philosophical position that there IS no god. The position you describe is more consistent with agnosticism.
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CFjohnny55
 
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Reply Fri 28 Aug, 2020 11:39 am
Yes, of course there is, silly!
Religions are an invention of man.
Faith is divine, and it comes from God.
No matter how many religions you care to
make up, none can never truly know God.

However, all religions do share much in common.
Good and evil, right and wrong, and life and death.
They differ on details, names, and interpretations.

If you like math, then consider God as the limit of
all of man's religions, regardless of their direction.
But this limit is not contained in the set of religions.
Such a set is said is be incomplete, but has a "point
of accumulation" relative to the points in the set.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 28 Aug, 2020 01:11 pm
What if no religions are correct, but there still is a God?

You mean like the blind-men describing an elephant?

..... whoa ............................. duuuuude ...
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 17 Nov, 2020 04:47 pm
@neologist,
This is probably the truth of matters.

In all likelihood, someone did create the universe, as there is messy cause-gap otherwise that science types keep trying to smoke & mirrors away.

However, it is highly unlikely that anyone spoke to Muhammad on some mountain or whatever. And sorry Ganesh, but an elephant man seems kinda unlikely.

If there is a God, but all religions are false, you actually have more freedom than with atehism (where they CALL themselves freethinkers but will actively shun you if you suddenly start talking about faith). You can be indifferent to religion, you can come up with your own, or you can be sorta theist or deist without being religious. That's pretty much every option, and also atheism if you wanted to be stubborn about things.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Wed 18 Nov, 2020 06:32 am
More likely - What if the only thing religions are correct about is that there is a God?
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