Why Kucinich can't be President

You are saying Kucinich can't be president just because he is right.

If we leave Iraq now, we will signal to Al Queda and all other terrorist groups (again) that we Americans are wimps who will cut and run as soon as things become difficult. And as they are the ones who are making things difficult in Iraq, they will know that all they have to do to bend American opinion to their will is to make things difficult in other ways as well. They can bring down any president, destroy any government, simply by doing what they do.

And no free people anywhere will be safe ever again.

We cannot afford to lose the war in Iraq. And the smart money is on getting behind the administration and the military and urging them to win it.

That is hyperbole and exaggeration, and is in no way related to anything sensible or logical.

If we leave Iraq now, we will signal to Al Queda and all other terrorist groups (again) that we Americans are wimps who will cut and run as soon as things become difficult. And as they are the ones who are making things difficult in Iraq, they will know that all they have to do to bend American opinion to their will is to make things difficult in other ways as well. They can bring down any president, destroy any government, simply by doing what they do.

And no free people anywhere will be safe ever again.

We cannot afford to lose the war in Iraq. And the smart money is on getting behind the administration and the military and urging them to win it.

It's too late Foxfyre. Iraq is lost. There is no possible way for us to be successful by any measure of success.

SO WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN IRAQ?: Let's just list one or two...
1. 36,000 teachers and supervisors trained
2. Teachers salaries increased (had previously been $5)
3. 8.7 millions new math and science books distributed
4. All schools outfitted with new desks and chalkboards
5. 2500 schools rehabbed
6. 4500 new schools to be built in 4 years
7. Transitional Law to govern interim
8. Iraq's Interim Constitution contains Bill of Rights
9. Bill of Rights is unprecendented in Middle East
10. Iraqi Army and Police retrained
11. Iraqi Defense Ministry fills all posts
12. Seven Iraqi Ministries already have soveriegnty
13. Coalition has completed 20,000 reconstruction projects
14. Schools, orphanages and medical clinics now open
15. Over 19 billion available to rebuild Iraq
16. Coalition and Local leaders apportion money
17. Coalition estimates over 1.5 million jobs created
18. 1000 Iraqi firms already contracted
19. Foreign banks operating in Iraq
20. 2/2004 - 315 state owned banks reopened
21. 19 private banks with 140 branches have opened
22. Financial Laws passed
23. Inflation is completely stable (historically incredible)
24. Iraqi currency exchange completed 1/15/2004
25. Five trillion dinar exchanged in 3 months
26. Iraqi currency appreciating in value
27. Investor confidence is up
28. Taxation suspended in April to spur economy
29. Iraq's government budget tops 19.2 billion
30. Iraqi government investing 125 million in new jobs
31. 2004 budget includes 400 million to reduce debt
32. New Iraqi Stock Exchange opened in April
33. Iraq's judicial system operational and courts open
34. Baghdad street crime down 70%
35. 169 judges and prosecutors removed for Baath connections
36. 3000 Iraqi corrections officers working

If we leave before Iraq has a stable government, the country will turn into something like Afghanistan was under the Taliban - rival war lords ruling every little neighborhood and patch of desert.

Foxfyre wrote:

If we leave Iraq now, we will signal to Al Queda and all other terrorist groups (again) that we Americans are wimps who will cut and run as soon as things become difficult. And as they are the ones who are making things difficult in Iraq, they will know that all they have to do to bend American opinion to their will is to make things difficult in other ways as well. They can bring down any president, destroy any government, simply by doing what they do.

And no free people anywhere will be safe ever again.

We cannot afford to lose the war in Iraq. And the smart money is on getting behind the administration and the military and urging them to win it.

It's too late Foxfyre. Iraq is lost. There is no possible way for us to be successful by any measure of success.

The argument that America can't show weakness is false. Americans are being killed, and why? So we won't be wimps? Are you willing to give the live of your husband, wife son or daughter for this reason.

We live in a Democracy. In a democracy is that a war can't survive without public support. As more and more GI's die, more and more Americans will stop supporting the war. Sooner or later the US will be forced to leave Iraq.

Look, Iraq is a disaster. If we can't afford to lose the war in Iraq then we shouldn't have entered it.

The US has lost the war. The best thing to do now is to accept it so we can heal our wounds and bury our dead.

There is no point to wasting one more life on this lost cause.

Yet the frustration of the generals summoned to the Senate was clear. At one point, Gen. Abizaid, with four glittering stars on each shoulder, leaned toward the microphone and said, "Our doctrine is not right. There are so many things that are out there that are not right in the way we operate for this war." He added that things that are broken would need to be fixed "to fight this war and defeat this enemy."

"This is hard," he acknowledged.