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The case of the man who cooked his son in his car

 
 
BillRM
 
Reply Mon 14 Jul, 2014 09:55 pm
I been following this case where the man went to work and let his two years old son in the hot car for many hours, by accident he had claimed and by design according to the police.

Now of course the police seized all his computers including his work computer and found all kinds of neg. information about him by doing so.

He and his wife both had done searches concerning how long it take for an animal or a human baby to died in a car before the event.

He had gone onto child free website that promote the idea of living a life without children.

An at work while his son was being cook to death he was engage not in doing work but in sexing women online including a 16 years old.

Now this guy is earning his living being an IT guy for Home Depot so if he was planning on offing his son you would think that he would had not have all this very very neg information on his computers.

You can indeed do searches without leaving any trace or wipe beyond recoverable traces of his online romance relationships and so on.

Hell as a fall back position he could have had his own computers unreadable by anyone else.

In any case, the idiot was once more an IT guy for a major company so why did he leave such information on his computers if he was planning on killing his son when it should be well within his abilities to not do so?

What is on his computers seems to imply he is guilt and yet the very fact such information is on his computers to be found imply that he is not guilt also!

Opinions????????
 
Pearlylustre
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 12:24 am
@BillRM,
This story has been on the news over on this side of the world as well. I really felt sorry for the guy at first until I heard about the stuff on his computer. A lot of IT people are stupid - quite a few of them work on my ISP's help desk.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:04 am
@BillRM,
I'd have to know more about his computer searches before making any decision as to whether it was murder or not.

I've been to the "childfree" forum of Reddit. I visit Reddit regularly and enjoy their parenting forum, which often has links to posts in the childfree forum; people cross posts things between the two all the time -- sometimes for information and sometimes for trolling. As a person who was decidedly childfree before becoming a parent overnight, I find both fora interesting.

I've also read articles on kids dying in hot cars. The Washington Post ran a great article about this a year or so ago. I think every parent I know read it. Some of them did some additional research.

Knowing he was an IT guy who still had this stuff on his computer makes me think two things: he was a normal parent and this was a terrible accident or that he thought he'd never be suspected and therefore didn't need to cover his tracks. Without knowing more, I have a reasonable doubt.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:09 am
@boomerang,
All good points in my opinion......Thanks for sharing.

Footnote I would hate to think of the cases for all kinds of misdeeds that could be level against me by picking and choosing my internet searches and websites visited.

Not that I would allow such information to be available even those I am not planning on any criminal conduct of any kind or even cheating on my wife for that matter.
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:17 am
@BillRM,
We had an experienced IT guy who was using the corporate high speed server to download gay porn. He placed gigs worth of the stuff in a shared folder on the network and one night bored operators were fishing around the network and happened on his folder. Lots of laughter on the night shift until the supervisor broke it up and reported it to HR. The guy got a week off without pay. My experience is that the idea that IT people are really careful with their surfing habits makes a lot of sense but is not borne out in reality.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:21 am
@engineer,
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Lots of laughter on the night shift until the supervisor broke it up and reported it to HR.


People are people and will be careless at times, however having gay porn store on a company network and perhaps plotting the murder of your son is not one and the same thing either.

I just do not know what to think at this point but the news media is very busy hanging the guy by way of law enforcement leaking information.

Oh here is an amusing story in my opinion, once I decided not to do a computer repair myself and took it in to Best Buy to have it work on. The tech after booting the machine saw the request for a password and ask me what that is about.

My reply to him is that is an encrypted volume containing my porn collection and other files that I do not wish to share with the best buy techs however my music collection is open to them.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 15 Jul, 2014 07:32 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

People are people and will be careless at times, however having gay porn store on a company network and perhaps plotting the murder of your son is not one and the same thing either.

True. My point was that no one ever thinks he is going to get caught. Rare is the person who goes to the extent you do to protect his privacy.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 05:44 am
My opinion is, that poor boy, what a horrible way to die.


Your opinion, as always, is to ignore the suffering of an infant, castigate the parent, not for killing his son, but for being too stupid to cover up his tracks, which is what you'd do in a similar situation.
Pearlylustre
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 07:17 am
@BillRM,
There's a similar case in Australia at the moment - though they don't seem to be suggesting that she did it on purpose:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-16/jury-to-decide-bendigo-mother-whose-child-died-in-hot-car/5602920
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 08:58 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Your opinion, as always, is to ignore the suffering of an infant, castigate the parent, not for killing his son, but for being too stupid to cover up his tracks, which is what you'd do in a similar situation.


Trying to derail another thread with personal attacks!!!!!!!!
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 09:03 am
@Pearlylustre,
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There's a similar case in Australia at the moment - though they don't seem to be suggesting that she did it on purpose:


Thank for posting the link however unlike the "gentlemen" there seems no question that she was not planning on killing her child and such things in the US happen around 40 times a year.

From the story given in your link I do not think that she should had been charge as losing a child in that manner is more of a punishment then anything a court could do to her.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 09:39 am
@BillRM,
No I'm just pointing out how a normal person would react upon hearing such news, which is not how you reacted.

Try pointing out anything I said that was inaccurate. You've still not shown an ounce of compassion for the little boy.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 10:03 am
@izzythepush,
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Try pointing out anything I said that was inaccurate. You've still not shown an ounce of compassion for the little boy.


Lord I should not take your bait but the issue of the computers have to do is if all the evidences on those computers imply he is guilt of knowingly killing his child or the reverse that he is not guilty of that crime due to his abilities to have removed such evidence if he was planning the murder of his son.

Normal people unlike you are indeed interested in if the child death was due to a sad accident or a cold blooded murder by his own father and perhaps his mother.

Now this is the end of replying to your nonsense as I am not going to allow another thread to be derail by your sick needs to attack me.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 10:18 am
@BillRM,
Still no compassion for the little boy, it's clear how your mind works.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 10:19 am
@izzythepush,
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Still no compassion for the little boy, it's clear how your mind works.


Bullshit..............
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 10:23 am
@BillRM,
Prove it's bullshit, cut and paste one of your posts that demonstrates compassion for the little boy.
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engineer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 10:36 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

No I'm just pointing out how a normal person would react upon hearing such news, which is not how you reacted.

I'm sure Bill was horrified as we all are when we hear of things like this. I took his post to be about whether it was a planned killing as opposed to a terrible accident.
boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 10:50 am
@izzythepush,
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My opinion is, that poor boy, what a horrible way to die.


That's EVERYONE'S opinion and therefore hardly a topic worthy of debate or discussion.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 11:04 am
@boomerang,
Thanks boomerang and engineer.

Now no human being should need to proved that he feel bad for the death of a young child and the death of a child or even a pet in a hot car is one hell of a way to die.

In my mind, however it would be far worst if the child met his death by the design of one or both of his parents and not by an accident and that is the subject of this thread.

A subject that Izzy once more is trying his best to derail by silly personal attacks he seem driven to launch against me.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 11:14 am
As far as I know, the guy has never said anything like-
"I did NOT check out hot car deaths on the net, the police and Feds planted it on my computer to frame me".
So why hasn't he said that?
 

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