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Sick Romps At Porno Prison

 
 
Reply Sat 15 May, 2004 04:51 pm
May 14, 2004 -- Iraq's feared Abu Ghraib jail was one big sex romp - sometimes by candlelight with an audience watching, U.S. troops said yesterday.

Sex and alcohol were commonplace, and soldiers frequently set up candlelit rooms for voyeuristic sex shows, said a soldier who served at the notorious prison.

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/20902.htm

"There were lots of affairs. There was all kinds of adultery and alcoholism and all kinds of crap going on," said Dave Bischel, a National Guardsman with the 870th Military Police unit, who returned home from Abu Ghraib last month.

"There was a bed found in one of the abandoned buildings. There was a mattress on the ground. They had chairs all circled around it and candles all over the place," said Bischel, adding the chairs were "obviously for an audience."

The soldier said the X-rated liaisons at the prison were made easier by its maze-like layout and that other troops frequently turned a blind eye to what their pals were up to.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2004 05:16 pm
What is your point Infowarrior? This article is about a G.I. having sex with her boyfriend, another G.I. She's currently carrying his baby for Christ's sake. You ended your quote, just before the story tells it's tale... Why? If anything, this story adds credibility to the theory that it really was mostly privates' running amock. Or do you think Rumsfeld ordered her to have sex with her boyfriend in front of others? Rolling Eyes Get a grip.

Here is the balance of the story so you don't have to settle for Info's slanted implications.


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"One of the female soldiers supposedly had sex in a gang bang," said Terry Stowe, an MP from California. "From time to time, things like this would happen."

News of the shocking sexcapades in the controversial lockup come as a friend of disgraced reservist Lynndie England lashed out in her defense yesterday, saying tapes of her having sex in the prison were personal to her and the boyfriend with whom she is "in love."



Congress members, who viewed shocking new pictures of abuse in the Iraqi jail, said England appeared in a sicko video having sex in front of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and that she was snapped in graphic sex acts with other U.S. soldiers.

But one family friend insisted the racy reservist had sex only with her boyfriend, Spc. Charles Graner - one of six others from the 372nd Military Police Company facing charges for the abuse - and that the pair are "madly in love."

He said the X-rated tapes had been taken from their foot lockers.

"We are all amazed by this. She only had sex with him," said Kenny Flanagan, who has known England since childhood.

The pregnant England, who is now stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C., met Graner, 35, a divorced father of two, shortly before the pair's Maryland-based unit was posted to Iraq.

Graner is charged with overseeing numerous abuses of Iraqi prisoners, and appears in several photos with the young private, leering at humiliated Iraqi captives.

Another soldier involved in the scandal, Spc. Jeremy Sivits, told Army investigators Graner would mock the detainees and brutalize them, The Los Angeles Times reported last night.

In one incident, he allegedly punched a detainee so hard, he knocked him unconscious. "His eyes were closed and he was not moving," Sivits was quoted as saying. Afterward, Graner shook his fist and said, "Damn, that hurt," the report says.

Sivits, who the paper said is expected to plead guilty at a court-martial proceeding next week, also disputed England's claims that she was ordered to pose for the snapshots that shocked the world.

One picture showed her holding a naked Iraqi man on a dog leash, and in others, she is shown making thumbs-up signs in front of a pyramid of naked Iraqi men and pointing at the genitals of a naked prisoner.

Sivits said England was "laughing at the different stuff that they were having the detainees do."

He also shot down her claim that the soldiers were ordered to abuse the prisoners, and said Graner warned him not to tell higher-ups about how they were being treated.

"Our command would have slammed us," Sivits said.

New photos and videos revealed by the Pentagon to lawmakers in a private viewing Wednesday showed attack dogs snarling at cowing prisoners, Iraqi women forced to expose their breasts, and naked prisoners forced to have sex with each other, the lawmakers revealed.
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infowarrior
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2004 10:48 pm
Perhaps you should ask the author what the point was?

Based on your answer OCCOM, you seem to think it's all peachy keen for the US military to use a former Saddam prison for torture, gang bangs and live adult entertainment.

With $87 billion of my tax dollars spent on Iraq last year, another $25 billion this years, and another $50 billion next year, I expect accountability.

Not the Dallas Mens Club in the desert.
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Deecups36
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 06:58 am
hi infowarrior- These perverts are the same ones who agree with Limbaugh who tried to minimize the Abu Ghraib torture palace as just so much college prank. They're ill.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 09:40 am
infowarrior wrote:
Perhaps you should ask the author what the point was?
Will the author be able to tell me why YOU posted here? Or why YOU chose to end the quote at a point that implied worse goings on than the balance of the story reveals?

infowarrior wrote:
Based on your answer OCCOM, you seem to think it's all peachy keen for the US military to use a former Saddam prison for torture, gang bangs and live adult entertainment.
Please fortify your accusations or retract them. Quoting a rumor that a "gangbang" took place, hardly constitutes proof and at no point have I ever condoned torture.

infowarrior wrote:
With $87 billion of my tax dollars spent on Iraq last year, another $25 billion this years, and another $50 billion next year, I expect accountability.
And whom do you hold accountable? Do you think someone ordered these renegade soldiers to fool around with each other in front of a camera? How naive are you?

Deecups36 wrote:
hi infowarrior- These perverts are the same ones who agree with Limbaugh who tried to minimize the Abu Ghraib torture palace as just so much college prank. They're ill.
And here we have your devoted cheerleader. Deecups you've now accused me of having poor reading skills, agreeing with the windbag Limbaugh, minimizing torture and being ill. Just like your buddy Info; all without any substantiation whatsoever.

What I'd like to hear instead of your constant ABB at all cost rants; is who you think will do a better job and why?
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infowarrior
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 09:46 am
I'll retract nothing, pal.

Read the link. Either we believe MP Stowe who walked the walk, or you.

My money is on the former.
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infowarrior
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 09:54 am
OCCOM BILL opines, "And whom do you hold accountable? Do you think someone ordered these renegade soldiers to fool around with each other in front of a camera?"

Not "whom," but who: Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld.

I next suggest you read Sy Hersch's piece in the New Yorker. This was all the work of Rumsfeld. Especially, the sex stuff. Read the piece and then get back here and try and defend these perverts.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 10:23 am
So does, apparantly, none other than William Buckley.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 10:42 am
infowarrior wrote:
OCCOM BILL opines, "And whom do you hold accountable? Do you think someone ordered these renegade soldiers to fool around with each other in front of a camera?"

Not "whom," but who: Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld.
Well this should be pretty simple then, since you are so sure. Please submit proof that Don Rumsfeld ordered GI's to fool around with each other in front of a camera. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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infowarrior
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2004 02:31 pm
As I said, read Sy Hersch's piece in the New Yorker. This was all the work of Rumsfeld. Especially, the sex stuff. Read the piece and then get back here and try and defend these perverts you hold in high esteem.
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