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Punctuation order

 
 
Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 02:50 pm
In a sentence, when I want to use an exclamation mark next to a question mark, how does the order works? example

I don't want to go to that party!?
or
I don't want to go to that party?!

Thanks for anybody who answers this silly question


 
Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 02:59 pm
@Ninewords,
I see no need for the placement of a question mark in that sentence. This is not an inquiry or interrogatory

However, that being said, if you had the sentence worded this way,
"Why would I want to go to that party?!

It matters not at all what order they are placed.
roger
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 04:01 pm
@Ninewords,
I think the exclamation point goes first, but either will convey the same feeling. By the way, that punctuation is called an interrobang, and wiki seems to agree that the order doesn't make much difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 04:42 pm
@Ragman,
I think it's meant to imply surprise
Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 05:34 pm
@neologist,
However, that could be the case, but it wouldn't be expressed as "I don't want to go to that party!?" That sentence is declarative.
Whereas the other "Why would I want to go to that party?!" is not.

neologist
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jun, 2014 08:04 pm
@Ragman,
If I were to presume your intention and say you wished to attend (or not), you might return my declaration in such a way as to dismiss my presumption.
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Ninewords
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 11:17 am
@Ragman,
Sorry, bad example
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Ninewords
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 11:20 am
@roger,
Oh, I didn't knew it had a name
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contrex
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 01:04 pm
Paired exclamation and/or question marks are definitely not standard English. A sentence can end with one (and only one) of either, but not both. So !? ?! !! ?? etc are unofficial and nonstandard.


JTT
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 01:14 pm
@contrex,
Quote:
Paired exclamation and/or question marks are definitely not standard English. A sentence can end with one (and only one) of either, but not both. So !? ?! !! ?? etc are unofficial and nonstandard.


Nonstandard English is still English. Your reply is highly misleading. It illustrates, yet again, just how little you understand about how language works, Contrex.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 01:15 pm
@contrex,
Could you post a source that illustrates your contention?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 01:43 pm
@Ragman,
It's possible to put an inflection in your voice to make I don't want to go to that party, a question, but for the life of me I can't think of any inflection that would make it a question and an exclamation.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 01:50 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:

It's possible to put an inflection in your voice to make I don't want to go to that party, a question, but for the life of me I can't think of any inflection that would make it a question and an exclamation.


A: She doesn't want to go to that party.

B: HUH?! (Are you seriously trying to suggest that) I don't want to go to that party?!?! Are you nuts?!
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 01:51 pm
You say "Neo ate seven burritos."
Because it's not true. I say.
"I ate seven burritos!? Surely you jest!"
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 01:52 pm
@neologist,
I might have eaten the seven burritos if there had been enough beer.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 02:13 pm
@neologist,
You nailed it, Neo.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 02:17 pm
@Ninewords,
Trust your own language instincts, Nineworks. You know what you are saying.

I don't want to go to that party!?

Rising intonation on the first part can illustrate both a questioning tone and emphasis.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 02:27 pm
@JTT,
Then, let's tap the keg
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 02:29 pm
@neologist,
Yes, let's do. Cheers!
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jun, 2014 02:45 pm
@Ragman,
The Longman Grammar of Spoken and Written English: " ... will all find it (the LGSWE) useful to know which grammatical patterns are common and which are rare. Hitherto this information has been based on native-speaker intuition. However, native speakers rarely have accurate perceptions of these differences: ... "
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