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The Red Cross has been politicized.

 
 
Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 06:51 am
Red Double Cross

A politicized ICRC won't help prisoners get better treatment.

Pentagon critics are treating a leaked Red Cross assessment--first reported in The Wall Street Journal last Friday--as proof that detainee abuse was widespread in Iraq and that the military was unresponsive to complaints. After reading the report, we think the real story is the increasing politicization of this venerable humanitarian group.

We say this with regret, because it would be a real shame if the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) became just another left-wing advocacy group along the lines of Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International. This would ruin its long-held status as trusted and neutral guardian of the Geneva Conventions around the world, but that's the path it is now on.

The core of the Red Cross method has been its scrupulous adherence to confidentiality agreements with the governments whose work it monitors. This approach has obvious drawbacks. But confidentiality has gotten the ICRC remarkable access and--as countless prisoners over the years have testified--has improved conditions for detainees of regimes not known for brooking public criticism. The ICRC held its tongue even as it worked in Nazi Germany and during its 23-year mission in Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
So it is more than a little disconcerting, and politically suspicious, that a report now leaks criticizing the United States, of all countries. We'd take ICRC President Jakob Kellenberger's protest that he was "profoundly disturbed" by the leak a bit more seriously if his organization had not rushed to confirm the authenticity of the document and then hold a press conference about it.

Or, for that matter, if the ICRC had not already picked an unprecedented public fight with the U.S. over the Guantanamo detainees. The Red Cross was upset from the start that the Bush Administration didn't grant the detainees "prisoner of war" status, never mind that their terrorist nature is clearly a break from the kind of war rules under which the Red Cross has typically operated. For example, none of the detainees met such Geneva Convention criteria as fighting in uniform and belonging to a military organization with an identifiable command structure that is itself committed to upholding the laws of war.

The Pentagon did pledge to grant the Gitmo detainees many POW privileges, if not formal POW status. And the ICRC was allowed to inspect the facility. But it kicked up a major fuss anyway.

We wonder how many Americans on the right or left would have been sympathetic to this ICRC complaint if they understood that POWs are required to give only name, rank and ID number. Or that the Geneva Conventions forbid even positive reinforcements such as better rations to coax information from POWs.

In other words, had Donald Rumsfeld agreed to ICRC terms at Gitmo, we wouldn't have been able to interrogate these men in hopes of thwarting the next 9/11. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11 who was arrested in Pakistan and is being held in an undisclosed location under non-POW rules, would also be off limits to serious interrogation.

The ICRC's leaked report shows that the organization has committed itself to similarly extreme positions with regard to Iraq. Contrary to much of the spin, the report acknowledges that "ill-treatment during interrogation was not systematic" for most prisoners, and that "abusive behavior by guards . . . was usually quickly reprimanded."
The report's complaints are mostly directed at the treatment of "high value" detainees, meaning the worst Baathist or jihadi offenders. Some of the concerns they raise are a legitimate and helpful check on U.S. officials. But as with Gitmo, the ICRC is also promulgating a no-interrogation standard that would severely compromise the U.S. counterinsurgency effort. The ICRC demands an end to "all forms of ill-treatment, moral or physical coercion" and a respect for detainees' "psychological integrity." It even complains about "frequent cursing."

If the ICRC wants to promote such standards honestly, fine. But then it shouldn't pretend that it is promoting anything to do with settled international law. We refer the ICRC to Article 64 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which gives an occupying power broad policing authority. How many people would find the Red Cross position acceptable if they understood it would forbid even psychological pressure on a deputy of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to reveal his boss's whereabouts?

The rise of terrorism and so-called asymmetric warfare only reinforces the wisdom of making distinctions between legitimate POWs and unlawful combatants. It also demands that the ICRC tread carefully with respect to governments that, whatever their faults, will make good faith efforts to play by the rules. It can hardly help the cause of human rights for the decapitators of Nicholas Berg to watch this ICRC report spun to give the U.S. a black eye, while these killers do not grant their prisoners any Red Cross access to be leaked about.

The Abu Ghraib offenders should be punished under normal military standards, but the uproar over their behavior shouldn't be used to undermine the U.S. ability to gather intelligence legitimately under international law. Yet both the fact and timing of the ICRC report's release seem to have been designed to achieve precisely that purpose: hit the Pentagon at a politically vulnerable time in the hope that it concedes.

This ICRC behavior poses a serious risk to its relationship with governments around the world, as well as to its special status when there are future revisions of the Geneva Conventions. We hope that some adults inside the organization understand this, because the ICRC's self-inflicted demise would be a real loss for prisoners of regimes that are truly odious.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 07:14 am
What is this disconnect between the WSJ editorial page and the larger paper?

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we think the real story is the increasing politicization of this venerable humanitarian group.


What does this mean? That the Red Cross report is a deeper moral failing that what happened at Abu Ghraib? And what is with this next bit?

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just another left-wing advocacy group along the lines of Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International.
What criteria establishes these organizations as 'left', for goodness sake? What would a 'right' version of them look like? Christ, an activist for lepers, is a commie bleeding heart?

Once again, axiomatically, criticism of American policy or acts entails that the critic is either leftist or just anti-American. Under no circumstances should one consider the real possibility that America might be acting contrary to her own ideals and principles.
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MyOwnUsername
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 07:22 am
of course Red Crossis politicized.
Everything is politicized.
And everyone is politicized.
And we are all part of huge conspiracy.

Against US govt. that is last moral fortress in this world.
Last time I hear it, it was from Serbs. Next thing I heard were their rockets. Luckily we don't have oil so we'll be spare of attack of another "moral fortress"
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 08:03 am
One of the things the Red Cross has is it's neutrality. That what allows it to enter countries like Iraq, Mozambique, Liberia, Haiti, etc and keep it's volunteers unmolested by either side.

By politicizing itself, some regimes may see it as an organization that no longer sees itself as neutral and may report more than it should and may therefore seek to ban the ICRC from involving itself.

It's a treacherous path that the ICRC is treading and it may end up making that path deadly for itself.
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 08:21 am
They reported their findings based on interviews and their own investigations. Merely because their findings in contrary to what the administrations wants to hear and its groupies is not proof that they are leftist or of any other political persuasion. Using the same tactics to shoot down anyone or any group that has anything even remotely critical of this administration begins to wear thin.

The conservative agenda is in danger of causing its own demise.

How is that for a headline without substance?
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yilmaz101
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 08:27 am
if it condemns, or calls attention to US wrongdoing it is
a) politicized
b) leftwing
c) terrorist
d) supporting dictatorship
......... you get the message....
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 08:31 am
yilmaz101 wrote:
if it condemns, or calls attention to US wrongdoing it is
a) politicized
b) leftwing
c) terrorist
d) supporting dictatorship
......... you get the message....


Rolling Eyes

I would expect that from the left.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 09:11 am
What do you expect of the centre moderates?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 09:16 am
I expect them to read the article and share their feelings about the article. Not the conservative agenda, not what the right or the left are doing and not how Bush is satan.

Blatham (like most of the time) started doing this, but got lost in the verbiage (which I can understand doing).
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 09:19 am
politicised= anything contrary to mcgentrixs right wing views. In this context.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 09:27 am
flash!!! democrats have become politicized, republicans are puzzled.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 09:29 am
I think, this article explains a lot:

The theory and practice of neutrality: Some thoughts on the tensions
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 09:30 am
McGentrix wrote:
I expect them to read the article and share their feelings about the article. Not the conservative agenda, not what the right or the left are doing and not how Bush is satan.

Blatham (like most of the time) started doing this, but got lost in the verbiage (which I can understand doing).


McG

I was pointing to the very questionable notions back of the argument this editorial advances. That's an example of an editorial that could have been a lot better than it was because it is guilty of not only what it charges the RC is guilty of, but of forwarding the party strategy in declaring that something else besides the prison abuses is of greater relative importance than the abuses, thus attempting to minimize them.

However, the point you (and the editor) make regarding the independent status the Red Cross has usually/always? observed is a valid one. On this question, one ought to seek out what the Red Cross itself has said regarding why they did it in this case.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 09:32 am
So it doesn't concern you guys that the ICRC may not have full access to POW's or prisoners in the future?

Although I don't see that happening with the US, I can see it happening in Iran, Israel, N. Korea, Canada, Indai, Pakistan, Mozambique, S. Africa, and many other countries facing war and warlike situations.

That concerns me because most countries are not as open as the US about letting organizations like the ICRC inspect our prisons and keep tabs on abuses and treatment of prisoners.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 10:15 am
McG

That is the valid concern. And it is surely the ICRC's concern too, more acutely than it is ours. Which begs the question...why did they do it here?

I could throw up some guesses, but they'd be just that.
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 12:42 pm
blatham

maybe you will find the following link helpful in answering McGentrix and the author of the article at the beginning of this thread.

http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/5YRMYC?OpenDocument
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 12:48 pm
Good article Revel. So, now we just need to figure out who "leaked" the cofidential report and have face justice.

It's encouraging to see statements like this from the ICRC.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2004 03:00 pm
revel

Thank you very kindly.

McG

Whomever leaked the document will be subject only to whatever policies the ICRC may have in place. No violation of any law has occured.

How odd that whomever decided to sneak the document to the US press chose the WSJ.

And how odd that the WSJ published it. I'm glad they did, and I'll even grant the positive here, that they did it out of principle (rather than for a scoop) even if it posed a problem for ICRC independence and future access.
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