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Absolutely Nothing: A Veteran’s Savage Indictment of the Iraq War

 
 
Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 11:20 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:

And, in an age of terrorism secrecy might be necessary.


"age of terrorism", dog you are dumb, Foof. The USA invented terrorism, the USA has been fully engaged in terrorism since it's inception.


Oh, you're back.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 11:22 am
@Foofie,
Y'all sure do know the squirrel routine.

Honesty, well, not so well.
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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 03:18 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Oh, you're back.


Isn't it wonderful! Twisted Evil
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 04:27 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:

Intentional fortitude is so Tuesday.


But spelling is so today.

Quote:
If I send you 50 bucks, will you promise to buy a clue?


How many tricks is that, 200?


Oh I'm sorry, we all get older I guess, were you forced to drop your price again? This is why it's so important to get an education or learn a trade. Nobody ever dreams of growing up to be JTT, it's what happens when you make poor choices, or get dropped on your head. tsk tsk tsk
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jun, 2014 04:39 pm
@glitterbag,
Lame lame lame, gb.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2014 04:42 pm
Dying vet’s ‘**** you’ letter to George Bush & Dick Cheney needs to be read by every American
03.19.2013
11:11 am

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To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young

I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.

I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.

I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.

I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.

My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2014 10:44 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Bet you 10 bucks neither of the bastards read a word of his letter.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 12:47 pm
@RABEL222,
Seriously? I bet you $100 they did.

Try running them through Snopes.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 12:52 pm
@RABEL222,
Here's five bucks you owe me.

Tomas Young
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tomas Young
Photo of Tomas Young visiting Ground Zero.jpg
Born Tomas Vincent Young
November 30, 1979 (age 34)
Kansas City, Missouri
Occupation War protester
Years active 2004–present
Military career
Allegiance United States of America
Service/branch United States Army
Years of service 2001–2004

Tomas Young (born November 30, 1979) is an American military veteran of the Iraq War. He was paralyzed by a bullet to the spine while deployed in Iraq. One of the first veterans to come out publicly against the war, he has spent most of his life since the war protesting. Young's conditions have worsened due to various medical complications and he had chosen to go on hospice care, awaiting his death.[1]. He later reversed that decision.[2]

Contents

1 Military career
2 Body of War
3 The Last Letter
4 References

Military career

Two days after the September 11 attacks, Young was inspired by President George W. Bush to enlist in the United States Army. There he hoped to earn money for college through the G.I. Bill and, in his words, "exact some form of retribution"[3] on those who caused 9/11.

On April 4, 2004,[1] five days after being sent to Iraq, Young was shot while riding in an open, unarmored truck during an ambush staged by rebels in Sadr City. One of the bullets pierced his spine and left him paralyzed from the chest down.[4]

He returned home to Kansas City, Missouri and joined the Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW). He has since become a public critic of the Iraq War.
Body of War

Body of War is a documentary directed by Ellen Spiro and Phil Donahue which follows Young as he adapts to his paralyzed body and questions his motives to enlist in the army.[4]
The Last Letter

In March 2013, Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges published an interview with Young about his worldview and circumstances.[1] Young was in hospice care at the time of the interview, which was conducted at his home in Kansas City. Although he has contemplated suicide on various occasions, he decided "to go on hospice care, to stop feeding and fade away. This way, instead of committing the conventional suicide and I am out of the picture, people have a way to stop by or call and say their goodbyes."[1] He later changed his mind, saying "I want to spend as much time as possible with my wife, and no decent son wants his obituary to read that he was survived by his mother."[2]

That same month, on the tenth anniversary of the Iraq War, Truthdig published "The Last Letter"[5] by Young directed towards George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. In the letter, Young accuses Bush and Cheney of war crimes; says that millions of Americans and Iraqis know "who you [Bush and Cheney] are and what you have done"; condemns "the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration"; and expresses his belief that he and other veterans were viewed as expendable by the Bush Administration. He ends by expressing hope that U.S. leaders will have the courage to apologize for the damage wrought by the war.[5]
References

Hedges, Chris. "The Crucifixion of Tomas Young". Truthdig. Retrieved 19 March 2013.
Wing, Nick. "Tomas Young, Dying Iraq Veteran, Chooses To Live: I'll 'Hold On As Long As I Can'". Huffington Post. Retrieved 23 June 2014.
Young, Tomas. "Antiwar Veteran". ZCommunications. Retrieved 19 March 2013.
Gay, Patricia. "Tomas Young, disabled veteran, tells audience he’ll commit suicide". The Ridgefield Press. Retrieved 19 March 2013.
Young, Tomas. "The Last Letter". Truthdig. Retrieved 19 March 2013.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 12:56 pm
@RABEL222,
Here's the other five you owe me. If you bother to look him up you'll find this guys writes well and copiously. Not a bit afraid to speak his mind, and able to word it well.


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I'm a retired US Navy Chief Warrant Officer. Nowadays I live in Alaska where I spend most of my time working in my woodshop or fishing. I occasionally consult for the Military. I have delusions of becoming a full time writer - or conquering the universe, whichever is easier... You can email me, your future ruler, at: [email protected]. Be sure to put "Stonekettle Station" in the subject line or else my moat monster will eat your messenger and make a funny origami hat from his skin. You can visit my blog at StonekettleStation.com.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 03:17 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Bob, the two bastards to which I am alluding are Bush and Cheney. Maybe you could explain what has your shorts in a bind because I wasent refering to the writer or the veteran.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 07:53 pm
@RABEL222,
I guess I need a sarcasm emoticon. I was playing along, I thought.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 08:01 pm
America and the West went into Iraq (and Afgh) because they could smell oil, and hoped to install friendly pro-west regimes who they can cut oil deals with.
It just shows how dumb our politicians are, because muslim hardliners are NEVER GONNA LET IT HAPPEN!
They know the West needs oil to make their tanks, warplanes and warships go, so they'll simply blow up the wells and pipelines and kill the oil workers as soon as we pull our troops out, it's not rocket science!
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 05:02 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Sorry. When the bet got to $100 I got a little upset. You would think as much as I use sarcasm I would recognize it when i saw it.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 05:10 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Partly true. But did it occur to you that if we wanted oil for our war machine we would have stayed there until we had extracted the last barrel of oil. If we had really been serious who in that area would have displaced us? This war was caused by leader and voter stupidity. In Afgh we had the ones who planed 9/11 within a year and should have left the area and left them to killing each other like they have been doing for hundreds of years.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:03 pm
@RABEL222,
Hey, sometimes I allow coldspot and baldino and oralloy get to me even though I know how full of it they are. I also tend to react as nastily as I can muster. My goofy response to you wasn't how I would have given it to the a2k RW. More importantly it was a goofily handled response. I was praying that baldino and coldsnot would challenge me. Sorry for the bobble.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:08 pm
@RABEL222,
Exactly right and they don't need western made arms. They do really well with low tech weapons. And the same advice goes for Iraq and Syria. Let them fight it out and develop national borders that make more sense than western map makers show them.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 08:05 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
This has been repeated so many times in the usa's history.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 09:14 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Can't do much about what happened and what will happen. We're the culprits who put those bastards into leadership positions to act out their fantasies with other peoples children, parents, and friends.

Oh, did I mention it was about oil and $$$$$$$?

WMD's; what a laugh!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2014 05:52 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
You got that right. Good simple analysis!
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