Reparations To American Blacks... Yes/No?

I am interested in history from whatever points of view of Eritrea, Ethiopia,
Liberia, and Sierra Leone.

I get it this is a big task. My nieces brothers fought in sierra leone, I think, or were at least nabbed.
A friend from Eritrea had all the younger children in his family going sans school to fight.

I get it that this is off question, but it is my interest.
I know people from all four places but my understanding is short.

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@ossobuco,

What does that have to do with reparations?

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@Buttermilk,

Buttermilk wrote:

No angle...I'm sorry but they don't (southern "pauperized" whites) deserve ****. Making other humans a commodity even for an economic benefit is morally wrong.

Yes, it is morally wrong; however, since many white families were brainwashed into that system that they were born into, I believe that Southern whites should not be seen as bad people, just people that were victimized by a morally wrong society. Sort of like all Germans were not gung-ho Nazis.

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@Buttermilk,

Buttermilk wrote:

Africa is a continent with different countries, why do people talk of Africa as if its a country on its own?

Good point. Please tell American Blacks that whites are not to be referred to as Europeans.

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@BillRM,

would u care to offer examples?

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@Foofie,

So when I look at pictures of Southern whites smiling watching a black man asphyxiate because of a noose around his neck are these same Southern whites still victims?

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@Foofie,

So I'm going to tell over 43 million strangers that whites aren't European? LOL OOOOOOOOOOK

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@Thomas,

Thomas wrote:

Nor should they. I think you might enjoy Mark Twain's essay The Awful German Language.

I've read it. I even passed an exam in German (an academic requirement that I cynically met with a minimal knowledge of then material). I took the total immersion course at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, but quit when we got to the subjunctive case. The test was of one's ability to translate material in his technical field at a certain rate without error. Dictionaries were allowed, but the time constraints sorely limited it use. My big fear was dealing with the profusion of compound words in the subject material. We were allowed to bring a fairly large volume of material from which the instructor would choose a sample for the test. My planned remedy was to stick with a narrowly defined subject - in this case fluid dynamics. The instructor dutifully chose a volume by the German aerodynamicist, Prandtl, opened it at random and told me to get started. Unfortunately the section he selected was a description of the mechanism holding and controlling the model in a wind tunnel - and that meant a new collection of arcane terminology and compound words. I damn near ran out of time and failed trying to figure out the German compound word for "the lubricating film between the bearing and the race". My first cut from the dictionary had something to do with foul smelling smut between the bung hole and the dregs. A tense moment I'll never forget.

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@Buttermilk,

I'm sorry...what remark did you find insensitive?

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Thomas wrote:

That's not hostile discrimination though, that's sober fact-finding. I think I speak for all Germans when I say we can handle a joke like this.

I don't know about sober, but Irish jokes are usually more focused on the humor in the situation than the object of the story. No true irishman would wait for a verb.

The Irish, in my opinion, understand self-deprecating humor. Some other ethnic groups do not, again in my opinion.

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@giujohn,

The fact that on page 8 I should thank you for abolishing slavery. You had **** to do with the freedom of other human beings.

1) Harriet Tubman helped free slaves

2) Freed slaves were offered freedom if they fought for the North.

3) Lincoln only pressed the freedom of slaves because the North was losing and sought extra troops in black slaves to replenish his troop lines.

So what is it I thank you for?

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@Buttermilk,

Buttermilk wrote:

So when I look at pictures of Southern whites smiling watching a black man asphyxiate because of a noose around his neck are these same Southern whites still victims?

I've seen those photos. They were brainwashed by a morally wrong culture. It's no different than the smiling German soldiers as some old Jew in WWII Europe is being intimidated/humiliated, or worse. We are products of our respective society. Fix the society, and the individuals will be different.

Actually, what is the point of reparations? Payback, or rePAIRations? If it doesn't repair anything, since so many Blacks live in circumstances that money cannot fix, reparations might just be a secular Christmas present?

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@Buttermilk,

Buttermilk wrote:

So I'm going to tell over 43 million strangers that whites aren't European? LOL OOOOOOOOOOK

The whites in Europe are Europeans. The American whites are white of European descent. And, so many American whites are descended from different parts of Europe that here in America they reflect a very different version of their respective American culture .

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@Buttermilk,

Buttermilk wrote:

3) Lincoln only pressed the freedom of slaves because the North was losing and sought extra troops in black slaves to replenish his troop lines.

In some people's opinion, the emancipation of slaves in the Confederacy was a tactic to force the war to conclude only with "total surrender"; this prevented anyone sueing for peace.

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@Buttermilk,

giujohn said:

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the only thing I want to hear from blacks today is,"you're welcome". I believe they should thank the United States of America for ABOLISHING slavery.

buttermilk said:

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I should thank you for abolishing slavery. You had **** to do with the freedom of other human beings.

I see why you didnt post my quote...as you can see I never said that I did anything...I said that blacks should thank this country for abolishing slavery.
Harriet Tubman did not make the 13th and 14th ammendment to the constitution nor did she pass any civil rights legislation.
As for your this statement...Lincoln only pressed the freedom of slaves because the North was losing and sought extra troops in black slaves to replenish his troop lines. What revisionist history are you reading???
And lest we forget the thousands of white men who died in that war and the thousands who were mamed...what do you owe them? Or is it your contention that they had some secret racist agenda that was important enough to die for?

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@Buttermilk,

I get your question. I don't know what is good. I spent decades re looking at access, no saint, just aware.

Some of my brightest pals did well but had the shadow. One, a major LA news anchor for years. She was bright enough to start with, no need for help.

Meantime, I'm not interested in talking with or about gluey.

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Let us keep in mind the (obvious) little secret that many younger Black men in the inner cities do not have jobs, since many white people are scared of younger Black men. Therefore, other groups, such as Mexicans, find day laboring jobs, or nanny jobs, because Blacks have done a good job in Northern urban centers of making whites scared of them. This is my opinion. It is also my opinion that this is fact. Perhaps, this gives credence to the (originally Black I think) adage, "what goes around, comes around."

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@Foofie,

foofie said:

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...many younger Black men in the inner cities do not have jobs, since many white people are scared of younger Black men. Therefore, other groups, such as Mexicans, find day laboring jobs, or nanny jobs, because Blacks have done a good job in Northern urban centers of making whites scared of them.

The problem is that while blacks account for only a small percentage of the population they account for the majority of crime especially in the area of drug trafficing. Even blacks are wary of other blacks for this reason.
On the other hand, Mexicans have a reputaion of being diligent, hard workers who's main concern is the support of their families.
As I have said before, the handsouts given by liberal politicians starting in the 60s destroyed the nuclear family. Blacks were more apt to avail themselves of welfare than Mexicans who in most cases were too proud to accept it leaving the male familial infuence intact in these families to guide their teengae males to productive endeavors.

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@Foofie,

All Germans were not gung-ho Nazis, but many willingly participated and/or endorsed the systematic oppression, degradation and slaughter of a very large group of people for the most banal and hateful reasons. Do you find that they were more victims of societal brainwashing than monsters in their own right?

I know I don't have the depth of forgiveness and understanding you may possess, and I don't expect African-Americans or Jews or anyone to either.

There is a difference, however, between holding actual perpetrators responsible and laying the sins of the certain fathers at the feet of their children, their grandchildren, their great-great grandchildren, their neighbors, anyone who speaks their language or all who look like them.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Holy crap !!! A well reasoned, thoughtful, and insightful response...cudos!

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