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Donald Sterling

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 08:12 pm
@firefly,
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he wanted the Clippers to be “composed of ‘poor black boys from the South’ and a white head coach.”


which is an exact copy of Paula Deens fantasy of having a plantation wedding.......these people were forged a long time ago and the old ways are going to stick with them somewhere in the brain, I would rather they be honest about their fantasies then have them repress them. And fantasy is not reality, and I seriously dont care what they dream about as I only care about what they do. Look, you would have every woman who fantasizes about being raped sent to the shrink for fixing and every guy who fantasizes about taking a woman sexually without her legal consent tossed in the clink. I disagree.

Besides, these people are old, they are going to be dead soon. Those who are younger came up in a different time, we have different ideas.....let the old people go in peace. Let's not make a federal case out of their out of date ideas.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 08:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:

which is an exact copy of Paula Deens fantasy of having a plantation wedding.......these people were forged a long time ago and the old ways are going to stick with them somewhere in the brain, I would rather they be honest about their fantasies then have them repress them.

Yes, Deen and Sterling both seem to long for the plantation days. And in both cases, they were referring to their employees, as though they were back on the plantation--and life on the plantation wasn't very good for blacks, so they aren't going to share the nostalgia.

If that sort of thinking is still in their brains, and they can't appreciate the effect of their words and fantasies in today's world, neither of them should be running a business in 2014. Others will back off from them, as happened with Deen's business contractors, and the Clippers corporate sponsors, they dropped them.

They can have their fantasies. Let them enjoy them, and talk about them, during their retirement--when no one will care, because they won't be affecting anyone.
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, you would have every woman who fantasizes about being raped sent to the shrink for fixing and every guy who fantasizes about taking a woman sexually without her legal consent tossed in the clink.

Stop that absurd nonsense--those aren't my views, and you know that. Deen and Sterling create a noxious workplace environment for blacks with the views they hold and express. And neither of them are very good at apologizing for that.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 08:45 pm
@firefly,
If 30 years ago someone had told me that Americans would soon demand the punishment of any old person who voiced an affinity for the old ways I would have told them that they had been watching too many sci-fi horror flicks like Logan's Run.

Now I know better.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 08:55 pm
@hawkeye10,
The "old ways" were racist--they still are.

When you act, and regard, black people, in those "old ways" you're being a racist.

And when you're the owner of a predominantly black team, in a predominantly black sport, you slit your own throat by being a racist, and by holding demeaning views of blacks.

I'm glad the players had the power to help get Sterling ousted. That is real progress.

hawkeye10
 
  1  
Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 09:00 pm
@firefly,
You can try as you might to put lipstick on this pig, but at the end of the day it is intolerance, and a demand for conformity that is way worse than we saw in the 1950's because now we have no aversion to lynching those who refuse to conform where as then we had almost completely put a stop to the KKK lynchings because we did not agree with them.

What we see here is " the ends justify the means". Any ideas of justice, or empathy, have flown far away from our minds. We have become a very ugly people.



We used to be better.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 09:08 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye, after seeing Stirling interviews this whole matter is looking like elder abused of a sick old man and all for the benefit of those who wish to show how very PC they happen to be on the issue of race.

You are right in using the word ugly over this attack on the man for a private conversation of his and the piling on with not regards for his age or his health or his remaining mental abilities.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 09:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
Right, we've come a long way since the 50's. We no longer tolerate bigotry as we once did. And, when a team owner's bigotry negatively affects and impacts the sports organization he belongs to, like the NBA, they have every right to oust him.

Sterling can say and think anything he wants--that doesn't mean he's still entitled to be in the NBA, if they feel his association with them is harmful to them.

You're just blowing hot air again.

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 09:12 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Hawkeye, after seeing Stirling interviews this whole matter is looking like elder abused of a sick old man and all for the benefit of those who wish to show how very PC they happen to be on the issue of race.

You are right the in using the word ugly over this attack on the man.


" that is my crazy uncle, leave him be" is how we used to handle these things. Now it is " GET A ROPE!"

we've come a long way, baby!
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 09:17 pm
@hawkeye10,
The NBA is willing to leave him be, they aren't trying to change him, they just want him out of their organization because he's harming them.

You might want that crazy uncle out of your house if he was standing on your front lawn exposing himself all the time too--because he'd be creating problems for you.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 09:17 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Now it is " GET A ROPE!"


Do not forget to bring a picnic basket, like in the good old days, when it was cheap family entertainment to go to a public hanging.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 09:26 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Now it is " GET A ROPE!"


Do not forget to bring a picnic basket, like in the good old days, when it was cheap family entertainment to go to a public hanging.


I am thinking more along the lines of William Randolph Hearst drumming up boogeymen in order to sell papers.......

Or 1970's local tv stations running 15 minute exposes on children getting snatched from their front yards (something that almost never happened), because the owners of the eyeballs could not get enough of their horror fixation which generated great profits.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 09:41 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
by holding demeaning views of blacks.

I'm glad the players had the power to help get Sterling ousted. That is real progress.
This is INSTRUCTIVE.
The fascist-authoritarian soul of liberalism is revealed:
thought control is DEFINED AS PROGRESS.

We first saw this in the Red Chinese in the Korean War.
Captured POWs were found carrying pocket diaries
in which thay were required to record their hourly thoughts,
for inspection of the Commissar, who had un-limited power
over any soldier whom he suspected of not being fully candid.

We see it again now in this PC liberalism.
I 'll do whatever I can to fight against it.





David
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 10:14 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Hmm it would be a good idea for the NBA commission to order all the current owners to have lie detector tests run on them so we can be damn sure that no other owner is holding demeaning views on blacks or any other non PC views for that matter,

What a wonderful world Firefly wish us live in where the right to own property should depend on the holding the "correct" private views and if not the employees should be able to force those persons out.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 10:34 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David, You seem too ignorant to understand it's not about liberalism. It goes way above your head, because of your own bigotry and ignorance.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 10:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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It goes way above your head, because of your own bigotry and ignorance.


Yes we need to hunt out all owners of sport teams just to started with that might have incorrect opinions as we can just not count on being lucky enough to get a hold of a recording that showed incorrect opinions on race between an owner and his mixed race girlfriend.

We need to get the kind of background checks on the owners that was done on Zimmerman looking for any evidence of racism and like Zimmerman there should be a tip line set up to report any racist comments any of the owners might had said going back to grade school.

Using Sliver unlimited powers he should also order lie detector tests done on all the owners also.

With enough resources we could reach the level of just being short of reading the minds of the owners to weed out anyone with improper thoughts on race.

firefly
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:20 pm
@BillRM,
Cut the crap.

Sterling was well known for his racially biased views long, long, before that tape surfaced and became public. However, this time the whole world heard his views, including views that were demeaning to the black players on the NBA team he owns, and demeaning to the majority of players on all the other teams, and demeaning to one other team owner in the NBA. And the revelation of his words and attitudes had an immediate direct negative impact on the NBA and within the NBA.

This isn't about his "thoughts"--it's about his words, the things he actually said, the attitudes he actually expressed--and, while he likely didn't expect these would become public, they did, and they caused harm to the NBA. And his continued presence in the NBA would cause more continued harm to the NBA.

And he's admitted his words were harmful and hurtful, and he told Anderson Cooper he understands why the NBA took action against him. He didn't make the dumb excuses or arguments you're coming up with--he admitted he was wrong, and he didn't attack the NBA for their actions. He's banned for life, he's got to live with that.

So, stop playing your violin for him. He dug himself into this hole. He's been digging it for quite some time.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:28 pm
@firefly,
Cut the crap Firefly, the scales of justice were not exhaustively evaluated in four days by a NBA commissioner who was just beginning to get comfortable pissing in his new executive toilet. Once you stop caring about justice you might as well be just another hoodlum on the streets.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
David, You seem too ignorant to understand it's not about liberalism.
It goes way above your head, because of your own bigotry and ignorance.
Ignorance of WHAT??????

Do u consider YOURSELF to be un-Ignorant?????
Do claim to be FULLY informed about everything???

U are Ignorant; everyone is, of billions of things.
I have pointed this out to u already several times, but u remain un-willing to learn.

U remain zealously, obsessively dedicated to continued ignorance.





David
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:51 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Read firefly's post. Maybe you'll learn something, although I doubt it.
You're a waste of cyber space. Too dumb to know how stupid you look to others.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 17 May, 2014 11:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Read firefly's post. Maybe you'll learn something, although I doubt it.
If u doubt it, then for WHAT REASON
do u recommend it?????
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