School is for making people dumb, very dumb

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Some of the under-privileged kids would be much better off having their parents teach them about the world and indoctrinating them into their world.

Q...there are seldom simple solutions to complex problems...and being simplistic about complex problems is no help at all.

What comes next in your plan for humanity...euthanasia for people who do not meet the standards you want to set?

You are really good at twisting my words now are you ?

You are really confusing a lot now.
I never said that children shoudn´t be educated, nowhere.
Offcourse it is good if children are being educated by their PARENTS
I am all for it.
I stated I am against ´public schooling´, because they indoctrinate,

that´s one, whu don´t thse people read?

what simple and complex has to do with it? don´t ask me.

that´s two

`euthanasia for people who do not meet the standards you want to set?`

duh?
Where did I state THAT?
Nowhere!
Or explain to me how you come from `indoctination by public schoolibg´ to
´euthanasia for people who do not meet the standards you want to see´????

That´s three

Oh and btw I am in no need of setting ´standards´ on the contrary.

Who do you suggest should educate the children who are not educated by public schools, Q?

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Who do you suggest should educate the children who are not educated by public schools, Q?

Simple. two things, homeschooling, and children learn by living in the real world
NOT by sitting still in a n ugly building being fed wrong stories.
It keeps them , deliberately, out of the feedback loops created by the ´real world´
school really crushes the genius in our children.

I note that this diatribe is merely a preamble for your lunatic "moon thread".Hopefully your kids (if any) will be robust enough to survive and forgive you for your attempts to "educate" them !

That is the solution to this problem that you see as a better alternative to public school education?

Where did you come up with that...from a public school education?

For the record...a part of our "education problem" involves kids who are not learning what is taught in schools...but instead learning "by living in the real world"...which they call getting street smart.

You haven't really thought this out at all, have you?

I went to public schools all my life and am now a graduate student doing post-grad studies:

I grew up going to public schools. 1 computer for the entire school with minimal books due to underbudget of LAUSD. I am now currently attending a prestiguous University. Public School worked for me.

...real truth...

You might as well argue that any cultural acquisition, such as one's language, constrains what you want to call "creativity". The term "education" itself has always been a political football involving individual needs versus group needs. I suggest the definition of "dumbness" involves ignorance of that fact.

sounds like a red herring to me....if dumb is taken to mean unable to see Plato's light, and if through getting processed by public education promotes inability to see the light then it is fair to say that schools make people dumb. I think we all probably agree that the collective through schools promotes what it wants to promote, but in this age when the collective is desperate to create docile citizens who will not make trouble perhaps educating individuals so that they can see for themselves is the last thing that we want schools to do.

We are shut up in schools and college recitation rooms for ten or fifteen years, and come out at last with a bellyful of words and do not know a thing.
Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-82) U.S. essayist and poet.