Non Belief In Santa Thread

Ah, Smiley . . . you snide little bitch. If you have a problem with people not believing in Santa, then provide plausible evidence for the existence of Santa. Otherwise, suck it up, and find something interesting to discuss.

you know I love you really Set. The burden of proof however is not on me, for I do not believe in Santa

This thread could use a touch of Panzade juice

What the thread could use is a touch of perspective. I know you think you're being clever, and constructing a satire on the Atheism thread. But you're not being clever, because the situations are not analogous. (Look up the noun analogy and then the adjective analogous.)

People do not ask adults if they believe in Santa. No one is going to knock on your door way too early on a Saturday morning to discuss a belief in Santa with you. You are not going to be discriminated against in public accommodation over a lack of a belief in Santa. You won't jeopardize or derail a public career in the corporate world or in politics because you don't believe in Santa.

People do ask adults if they believe in god. People are going to knock on your door way too early on a Saturday morning to discuss a belief in god with you. You can be discriminated against in public accommodation over a lack of a belief in god. You can run a significant risk that you will jeopardize or derail a public career in the corporate world or in politics because you don't believe in god.

Are you starting to get the picture?

Unlike people who don't believe in any gods and say so openly, people who don't believe in Santa constitute almost the entire grownup population of the United States. Consequently, unlike atheists, asantaists do not have a distinct experience worth talking about.

Oh! I do hope this finely reasoned discussion ('cause I can just tell it's shaping up to be one) gets into what it's like to be a religious minority in the world. You know, an actual minority. One that has been persecuted for generations.

Because, you see, not believing in Santa gets you a ticket on the adult train.

Not believing in Jesus can sometimes get you on some other trains.

Hear hear . . .

Excellent post!

The noblest among us are concerned about the rights of those who are different from them. Especially groups who have suffered from a longstanding social disadvantage or historical oppression.

If Santa didn't exist, why would he have a special holiday dedicated to him? He must exist, just like the Easter Bunny does.

I am Santa and I do exist.

Just ask Mo.

Ironically, Santa actually did exist. The figure goes back to Nicholas of Myra, who was an actual historical person. Of course, the raindeers and the assorted miracles he allegedly performed are apocryphal. But believing in Santa Claus is a lot closer to being reasonable than believing in Jehova or the Easter Bunny.

Theres no Easter Bunny? waaaaahhh

Hmpfh!

From an earlier publication:

Neo, our little friends are right. There is no Santa Claus. It’s a story made up by oour parents and enthusuiastically supported by a bunch of douche bag merchants.

"Your friends have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe ezxcept when they see". And good for them. Skepticism is healthy. It keeps us from being duped by liars and scam artists and ND OTHER assholes who want to control and manipulate us. More importantly: Skepticism helps us understand reality. And reality is amazing. Reality is far more important, and far more interesting, than anything we could make up about it.

Your friends understand that there is plenty about the world which is not comprehensible by their little minds. They understand that all minds, whether they be adults’ or children’s, are little. They see that in this great universe of ours, humanity is a mere insect, an ant, in our intellect, as compared with the boundless world about us. But your friends also see that the only way we can gain a better understanding of this great universe is to question, and investigate, and not believe in myths simply because they’re told to us by our parents and teachers and newspaper editorial writers.

Or maybe they din’t. Maybe they simply understand that Snta Claus does not ******* exist.

No, Virginia, there is no Santa Claus. Love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. But Santa Claus does not exist. He is a story made up by your parents. You should be extremely suspicious of anyone who tells you otherwise.

And far more importantly: You should be extremely suspicious of anyone who tells you that you’re a bad person for not believing things you have no good reason to think are true. You should be extremely suspicious of anyone who tells you that, in order to experience love and generosity and devotion, you have to believe in Santa Claus, or any other mythical being there’s no good evidence for. You should be extremely suspicious of anyone who tells you that “childlike faith” — i.e., believing things you have no good reason to think are true — is somehow in the same category as poetry and romance. You should be extremely suspicious of anyone who tells you that the world would be dreary without Santa Claus: that without Santa Claus, the light of childhood would be extinguished, we would have no enjoyment except in sense and sight, and existence would be intolerable. That is one seriously messed-up idea.

Adults know that there is no Santa Claus. If they tell you otherwise, they are lying to you. That’s okay: some parents tell their children that Santa Claus is real as a sort of game, and there’s no evidence that this does any real harm. But if anyone keeps lying to you — about Santa Claus, or anything else — when you ask them a direct question and explicitly ask them to tell you the truth? That’s a problem. And if anyone tries to make you feel ashamed, or inferior, or like your life will be dreary and intolerable, simply because you don’t believe in this lie they’re telling you… you should be extremely suspicious. They are trying to manipulate you. It is not okay.
Me too,its from an old blog

I believe in Setanta!

I don't know this Santa bloke you folks are going on about. What's he got that Setanta doesn't have?

Way to go fuzz face!

I was trying to give some hope and encouragement to our young friend and you just ruined it.

I hope you are proud of yourself!

Apparently, a sleigh and eight tiny reindeer.

We can fix that.

I have a theory that Setanta is a Father Christmas from another planet.

If you take Santa away from his name you are left with e.t.

Nuff said.....