Blown up over the ocean? sunk to the bottom of the ocean? stollen or hijacked?

@Ragman,

Its almost like this effort is being managed by the Russians, where incompetence rules.

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@farmerman,

Yeah, consider how well the rebuilding of Iraq and Afghanistan have come off.

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@farmerman,

Yeah, I hear 'ya. But the Russians don't have the corner on the market for cover-ups or incompetence and inhumanity.

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@Ragman,

Tell farmer about USA incompetence, Ragman. How it results in the death of millions.

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@Ragman,

Yeh they do. As a third gen Russian heritage, Ive alswys been astounded at how stupidly they engineer and how they proceed in projects. I developed a field operation for Titanium exploration in the Caucuses and when we got done with the operations the Russian beent for incompetence and graft would make Chicago look like the Amish Relief Organization.
So much money gets wasted and when things are done, schedules are just ignored until last minutes .
Despite it, we were successful.
When I saw the recent Olympiad , I was reminded of my days of Ti mining with our Russian friends.

Japan and China are pretty incompetent too but they are 'designedly so". They substitute dangerously toxic and substandard material knowingly and purposely.

We are rookies in comparison

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@farmerman,

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We are rookies in comparison

Can you say US military spending?

Can you take us thru the restoration of Iraq?

Afghanistan?

Farmerman the "academic".

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@farmerman,

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Japan and China are pretty incompetent too but they are 'designedly so". They substitute dangerously toxic and substandard material knowingly and purposely.

I have been told that the Japanese can be counted on to keep their home island pristine, but anywhere also they are will be poisoned before they are done.

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@hawkeye10,

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I have been told that the Japanese can be counted on to keep their home island pristine, but anywhere also they are will be poisoned before they are done.

Y'all have been told a lot of crap. Hawk, and y'all are really good at repeating it.

Have you any idea of what the usa has done to poison the planet?

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@hawkeye10,

How do you figure? Is Fukushima Daiichi pristine? Is Tokyo a particularly environmentally pristine city?

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@Ragman,

I recall all the pro-Fuk people herein talking about how the "minor meltdown" wouldn't be the cause of any long term health and environmental damage.
Yet all the Japanese nuke plants are about as seismic ready as a bunch of water balloons

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@farmerman,

My understanding is Fukushima is unfortunately located on something akin to a triple fault location. Is this correct?

Also their storage/leakage protection standards of design were like 40 yrs behind the times.

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@farmerman,

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We are rookies in comparison

You mean we have something to aspire to?

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It is pretty clear that Japans nuclear polution was caused by bad management and over confidence, not lack of desire to keep the island pristine. The Japanese rep for being skilled managers has really taken a beating these last 20 years, as a result of the economy, broken political system, and nuclear plant operation.

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@hawkeye10,

Regardless of the reason...the result is that it's a polluted radioactive mess that is spreading.

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@Ragman,

How's the weather in your bubble, guys?

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@Ragman,

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Regardless of the reason...the result is that it's a polluted radioactive mess that is spreading.

It's already merged with the nuclear wastes from USA, UK, French nuclear tests in the pacific.

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@Ragman,

this is correct. But there are several places where seismicity is lessened to a haz 2 designation. Also, japn NEVER listened to the advice of the late Richard Wilson (A real expert on siting and backup designs of nukes). The Japanese have had this same "we understand but we know better" attitude that makes their nukes as unsafe as those of Russia

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

I see that they've reported credible signal hits that correspond to the plane's pingers.

And now tonight they are saying that they are confident that what they are detecting are the actual black boxes.

So I guess we now know for sure where the plane ended up. Perhaps not actual proof yet. But it seems pretty clear.

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@oralloy,

And yet not so much as a life jacket has been found. None of the possible explanations for this are good (they are wrong about where the plane is, search incompetence, the pilot set the plane down soft as a baby).

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

farmerman wrote:
I see that they've reported credible signal hits that correspond to the plane's pingers.

And now tonight they are saying that they are confident that what they are detecting are the actual black boxes.

So I guess we now know for sure where the plane ended up. Perhaps not actual proof yet. But it seems pretty clear.

Careful that the report didn't come from the mouth of the Australian PM. HE's a ******* halfwit, and since he's visiting China, and no one is paying any attention to him, he needs to generate some news.

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