what about heaven

Brandon said: It doesn't make sense to believe claims for which there is no evidence.

Who do you think it was who the entire population of Israel and the Roman garrison saw strutting his stuff in front of them for 3 long years, David Blaine?..

There is no record of Caesar Augustus' decree that "all the world should be enrolled" (Lk. 2:1). The Romans kept extremely detailed records of such events. Not only is Luke's census not in these records, it goes against all that we know of Roman economic history. Roman documents show that taxation was done by the various governors at the provincial level. As we shall see later, the property tax was collected on site by travelling assessors, thus making unnecessary Joseph's journey away from what little property he must have owned.

His putative offense of looking at criminals seems innocuous.

You don't go to prison for three months
for doing what he claimed he was doing.

To spend three months for a first offence
would mean he was something sexual/violent.

He's taking advantage of your lack of knowledge
about the British judicial system to talk a load of bollocks.

Izzy said: You don't go to prison for three months for doing what he claimed he was doing. To spend three months for a first offence would mean he was something sexual/violent.
He's taking advantage of your lack of knowledge about the British judicial system to talk a load of bollocks

Izzy said: You don't go to prison for three months for doing what he claimed he was doing.
To spend three months for a first offence would mean he was something sexual/violent.
He's taking advantage of your lack of knowledge about the British judicial system to talk a load of bollocks

Nah mate,[????] the Brit (and American) systems often come up with ludicrous decisions
that makes them a laughing stock, and that's what happened to me.
The black drug dealers claimed I was "infringing their human rights"
by watching their dealing through my binocs, so the gutless coppers
arrested me and the gutless magistrates gave me 3 months!
Like I said, it's so crazy I couldn't make it up..
I wonder who Hollywood will cast as me when they put it on film,
Wills, Stallone, Van Damme, Pacino, Diesel?..

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Brandon said: It doesn't make sense to believe claims for which there is no evidence.

Okay, on what "evidence" do atheists say "there's no God"?

Izzy said: The Bible is not a factual document, most of the Gospels are 3rd/4th+ hand information.

OmSigDavid asked: Romeo, help me to understand this:
it is against the law to look at criminals in England??

Remember, the drug dealers were BLACK, and blacks can get away with anything!

Black and Asian people are still far more likely than white people to be stopped and searched by police in England and Wales, a report has said.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) said in some areas black people were 29 times more likely to be stopped and searched.

Overall, black people were six times as likely as white people to be stopped.

The commission said the disproportion between different ethnic groups remained "stubbornly high".

Romeo said: You couldn't make it up.
Izzy said: You just did.

The Gospel of Matthew is generally believed to have been composed between 70 and 110, with most scholars preferring the period 80–90; a pre-70 date remains a minority view, but has been strongly supported. The anonymous author was probably a highly educated Jew, intimately familiar with the technical aspects of Jewish law, and the disciple Matthew was probably honored within his circle. The author drew on three main sources to compose his gospel: the Gospel of Mark; the hypothetical collection of sayings known as the Q source; and material unique to his own community, called "Special Matthew", or the M source.

Although some notable New Testament scholars affirm traditional Johannine scholarship, the majority do not believe that John or one of the Apostles wrote it, and trace it instead to a "Johannine community" which traced its traditions to John; the gospel itself shows signs of having been composed in three "layers", reaching its final form about 90–100 AD.

Not at all. There's always more to it than that.

The police try really hard not to arrest people who are just mouthing off, and arguing noisily.
They take up spaces in the cells, and usually are released without charge once they've cooled off.
They normally warn them over and over again, but some people just don't know what's good for them.

Izzy quote from an article: "The anonymous author was probably a highly educated Jew, intimately familiar with the technical aspects of Jewish law, and the disciple Matthew was probably honored within his circle"

The atheists view of the Bible-
Genesis- LIES!

Izzy said: You don't spend three months in prison for telling the police about drug dealers.

The atheists view of the Bible-
Genesis- LIES!

You really think Adam and Eve and all that happened,
despite all the scientific evidence to the contrary.