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Min wage raise has no effect on businesses

 
 
raprap
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 11:46 pm


This is typical of the service provided by a minimum wage employee---first is the employee who sees no advantage in recognizing his 'act of Sysiphus'. He knows that there is no advantage in completing the task, he's being paid the absolute minimum and that there is no personal benefit in completing the task. He's pretending to work for a wage that pretends to be liveable.

Moreover, his supervisor, if such supervisor exists, doesn't care. Why? His supervisor is aware that they have available minimum wage employees that will do the job the same way.

Is this the consequence of a starvation minimum wage? Employees pretending to work.

If so, increasing the minimum wage to something liveable where employees see an advantage to completing a job and providing a service it can be possible that cost will lower.

BTW my present problem with WalMart (the source of this youtube) is that anything you buy there is so cheap much of it is shoddy. Sometimes dangerously shoddy (don't ride a WalMart bicycle without a careful inspection by someone sober and mechanically inclined).

Rap

PSS ColdDope is this snow shoveler you before you were retired and forced to quit drinking?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:01 am
@raprap,
Quote:
PSS ColdDope is this snow shoveler you before you were retired and forced to quit drinking?


I was not retired. I retired. And I was not forced to quit drinking. It was my choice. Something idiots like you don't care about. you are content with someone doing that for you.

And I will tell you right now you mean spirited gossip your personal attacks mean nothing. They show how incredibly desperate you are because you don't have the brains to do anything else but.
And to know these things about me means you have been talking to someone from Amkon, a forum that consists of stalkers and criminals. They are also liberal fucktards that can't handle the truth. Thank you for putting me on the high road side of this exchange and others to come.
raprap
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:20 am
@coldjoint,
Except for the entertainment value you provide, I pretty much feel the same way about your hatefilled ColdDopering. Its a guilty pleasure I admit--like watching a trainwreck in action and having a hand on the switch to maximize consequence.

Here's a double barrelled ColdDopering meme fer ya to take to heart.



BTW I wouldn't know beans about any other site you choose to haunt. The two items I cited about you are available in this forum. Your memory is as faulty as your ability to construct a cogent thought.

You know, ColdDope, you really can't get too much easier.

Rap




engineer
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 06:34 am
@PUNKEY,
PUNKEY wrote:

Get ready to pay for a $35 pizza.

Because the fear of the $35 pizza is a common rant among those campaigning against the minimum wage, I looked up the cost of a pizza. This is from an MIT student lab workshop. The spreadsheet is very detailed, but from the summary section on the cost per pie:

VARIABLE COSTS per piece
Material Cost $3.48
Energy Cost $0.08
Labor Cost $0.42
Total Variable Cost $3.97

FIXED COSTS per piece
Main Machine Cost $0.63
Auxiliary Equipment Cost $0.26
Tooling Cost $0.00
Fixed Overhead Cost $0.37
Building Cost $0.14
Maintenance Cost $0.05
Total Fixed Cost $1.47

Total Fabrication Cost $5.44

The labor assumption for this model was $15/hr producing a labor cost per pizza of $0.42.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 07:02 am
@PUNKEY,
PUNKEY wrote:

Get ready to pay for a $35 pizza.



It already exists, at the tourist trap that is Pisa's Cathedral Square.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Leaning_Tower_of_Pisa_(1).jpg

Tourists are bussed in and usually have to stay for about 3 hours, all the restaurants are extremely overpriced. I had to pay 2 Euros just to have a piss, and that was as a customer who had actually bought something.
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raprap
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 07:30 am
@PUNKEY,
If you could have gotten a pizza at the 14 Superbowl $35 sounds like the deal of the day.

http://tireball.com/nfl/files/2014/02/expensivesuperbowlitems.png

http://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hot-768x1024.jpg

Rap
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 10:40 am
@raprap,
Quote:
hatefilled


Examples moron.
raprap
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:08 am
@coldjoint,
Examples of ColdDope 'Hate"

Click on 'ColdDoper' below

Colddoper

Scroll down to 'my latest posts'

Try any three-and read the punk puce print. The overwhelming odds are that all three are full of ColdDope "hate". It is a near certainty that two of the three are pure unadulterated ColdDope "hate".

ColdDope, you really have to stop trying to be this easy.

Rap

coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:42 am
@raprap,
Quote:
It is a near certainty that two of the three are pure unadulterated ColdDope "hate".


Then it should be easy for you to cut and paste some examples.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:44 am
USA looks pretty decent here

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/09/12/minimum-wage-minutes-big-mac-01.png
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:50 am
@hawkeye10,
You have to understand Obama and his ilk are out to destroy the free market. Then it is just a matter of the useful idiots jumping on board.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:55 am
@hawkeye10,
One very big problem with the argument "so and so has a higher min wage and the jobs situation is fine so we can raise min wage everywhere" is that the places that have a higher than fed min wage are all high cost of living places. High cost of living places are almost always places that people want to live for social or natural setting reasons, these places have assets that draw people that the rest of the nation do not have.

Also, the states that have the higher min wage have simply moved to even the scales some on the affordability of living in those locations.

http://roushea.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/2013_oor_minimum_wage_map.jpg
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:57 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

You have to understand Obama and his ilk are out to destroy the free market. Then it is just a matter of the useful idiots jumping on board.

I think it is rather idiocy/incompetence/political opportunism.
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raprap
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:00 pm
@coldjoint,
ColdDoper now you've added being incredibly dense and lazy to your long menu of personal faults.

Surprise me ColdDope, get even easier.

Rap
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:05 pm
@raprap,
Why do you keep replying and refusing to prove what you claim? Talk about easy. You are just on the bandwagon blowing smoke and who knows what else. http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/chuckle.gif
raprap
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:08 pm
@hawkeye10,
Interesting when you compare nations with minimum wages much lower and higher than the US with the retail price of a Big Mac. Except for Mexico there isn't, much variance in the Big Mac price.

That is a good indication that labor cost has little effect on the product cost.

Hmmmm

Rap
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:11 pm
@raprap,
Quote:
That is a good indication that labor cost has little effect on the product cost.

http://www.alien-earth.org/images/smileys/s374.gif
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:16 pm
I would like to see a graduated min wage by age, with full min not imposed till age 21..one we must do something about youth unemployment and two young inexperienced and largely unskilled workers are not worth what an experienced adult is and three very rarely are those under 25 even trying to support themselves or families these days (they are funded by mommy and daddy)
.

http://www.heritage.org/~/media/Images/Reports/2013/02/ib3866_chart1-850.ashx
raprap
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:18 pm
@coldjoint,
ColdDoper, all you had to do is to follow the provided link two posts above.

BTW You're so easy I'm not laughing with you, I'm laughing at you.

Rap
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:21 pm
@raprap,
raprap wrote:

Interesting when you compare nations with minimum wages much lower and higher than the US with the retail price of a Big Mac. Except for Mexico there isn't, much variance in the Big Mac price.

That is a good indication that labor cost has little effect on the product cost.

Hmmmm

Rap

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