Twenty Lies of GW Bush

Only 20? My view is George Bush can tear through 20 lies in a single day!

Lie No. 5: "The Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

This is Deecup's favorite. What a crock of you know what.

This lie completely ignores North Korea. But, many neocons bought it.

Oh that wonderfull OIL FOR FOOD program sure helped the Iraqies. It simply made half of europe's UN representitves filthy rich. I know, that if I was getting kick-backs in the scale of BILLIONS of dollars, I would want to sheild the crook paying me from justice just like the froggy french.

Sure you may have quoted the president 20 times, but the evidece refuting his claims is suspect at best. You named the UN and the oil for food program at least 5 times. I don't have an ounce of respect or consideration for that "piece of shi%" organization. We should expel that "America hating" circle jerk from our country.

The whole world hates America because they are jealous of what we as a people have. There is no other place on earth like America, and quasi-socialist europe can never have it because they have a flawed system. The middle-eastern dictatorships are even worse, because those with power are almost entirely currupt. They simply deprive thier people of all worldly needs. The terrorists show other muslims what we have to ingrain how nice it is to be an American-only to tell them that comfort and happiness on earth is wrong. And killing us is necessary so that they can compell us to loath in the suffering that they must endure.

If you dont feel that the sentiment of the terrorists, Saddam, and Osama Bin Laden are wrong in every aspect of their meaning, you should move to afghanistan. Saddam Hussein resented everything that is America and would have done anything to cause us suffering. I think you should put your "Bush Hating" aside and take a look at the big picture.

Iraq lost all soverigenty when it invaded kuwait. If Saddam had nothing to hide, why expel, impede or mislead the inspectors. Is he too proud to answer to the silly Americans and the international community. He lost his right to lead that country when he tried to exploit his soverign neighbor.

We are the only people with the will to protect ourselves from jealous lunatics.

"The whole world hates America because they are jealous of what we as a people have. There is no other place on earth like America, and quasi-socialist europe can never have it because they have a flawed system. The middle-eastern dictatorships are even worse, because those with power are almost entirely currupt. They simply deprive thier people of all worldly needs. The terrorists show other muslims what we have to ingrain how nice it is to be an American-only to tell them that comfort and happiness on earth is wrong. And killing us is necessary so that they can compell us to loath in the suffering that they must endure."

1.No the whole world hates you because of this arrogant attitude. We don't care what you as a society can produce or accumilate through idiginious means. But when you start exploiting resources belonging to people in other countries of course we will hate you for stealing from us.

2. Isn't it ironic that all those middle eastern dictatorships and their corrupt regimes are a product of US foreign policy defined by the american vision of "a stable middle east" which basically equals security for israel and a stable oil supply. The american government has taken part in either establishing or maintaining the rulers in, lets see now, saudi arabia, kuwait, oman, qatar, bahrein, iraq (oh yeah bad ole saddam himself was once an ally), jordan, egypt, and moracco, if we dwell further into history the shah of iran, one of the meanest corruptest bastards to ever roam the face of the earth was ally numero uno.

3. Americans aren't killed for their "immoral ways" or "out of envy or hatred for their life style". What the american people have suffered is for the misguided american policies. It was so 50 years ago and it will be so 50 years from now on. As you say in the land of the free "what goes around, comes around" you cant honestly expect that after having made the world such a misarable place to live in the name of freedom, liberty and justice for all for so long to not suffer any blow backs. Every time america or its close allies take part in action against the weaker people of the world you will have more and more people hating you. And whenever they get the means to they will attack and attack with a vengance. It was just once so far that the people in the US witnessed first hand what force applied to innocent civilians can do. Unfortunately people all over the world have witnessed it so many times that they have no moral dillema when they get the chance to strike back.

One last word just loose the arrogance and you will find that the remaining 6 billion in the world aren't all that much different from you guys.

Tony,

You said:


Using your rationale, wouldn't that mean that Bush has lost his right to lead his country after invading a sovereign nation? Or does it only work that way when another country does it?

Problem
The problem with most American leaders, incl. the Congress is that they cover up Imperialsim with untrue concepts like "freedom" and democracy" when those concepts are the opposite of what they do to other countries. Most Americans have no idea of what American Imperialism is or what it has wrought. They view the world as a fairly tale in which America is right in exploiting other countries and people.

gosh how much I wish that you all had been exposed to Naom Chomsky, especially his seminar titled distorted morality:war on terror. Now there is an intellect if I ever saw one. Chomsky basically says the cause of the problem is biggotry. Honestly I want eveyone to ask themselves this very basic question. Is the rightness or virtue of any attitude and behavior dependent on any standard or is it relative to which side one stands on.

As long as we all believe it to be relative we will have all the problems in the world. There will be even more terror, the us will end up having to colonize, pardon, it is liberate when they do it, many more countries. And guess what? The muslims believe they go staight to heaven when they die in the name of god and country, and also it is an honor to have someone who has sacrificed their lives for their country in the family, even in secular Turkey. The foreign policy imperative of that group of cowboys and loose cannons in washington only means one thing for americans.... many many body bags day in and day out.

Also why is it just the US citizens that get to choose the american president? The bastards preside over the rest of the world more than they do over you. I am sure that this administration has not spent half the energy and time in tackling real issues that affect your lives as they have spent on planning the war on iraq, and later sorting out the mess they created..... but that I guess is a whole another issue......

yilmaz, welcome to A2K. It's imperative that this forum have a voice from a country such as Turkey.

Well, actually, this quote shows better then anything why world hates America (and once again I will note: all world hates America, not AMERICANS - those that hate all Americans are different story)
Being neutral, I assure you that as much as I would (if I HAD to choose, because I am pretty fine in my country, you would be surprised that I have everything to have decent living here, as well as most of my compatriots) rather live in USA then in Middle East, even much more I would rather live in, for example, Sweden then in USA. As well as million homeless people in USA I am pretty sure. Or those living in trailors.

This arrogant attitude "there is not other place on earth like USA" is actually not why world hates America. This kind of attitude is why most of the world thinks that Americans are dumbest nation in world (I am NOT saying that, although it's quite obvius that USA has higher percentage of people without absolutely any knowledge about rest of the world then any other country).

Loving your country, and being proud of it is one thing - thinking that your country is only good country in the world, or even only country in world, period, is in first stage arrogancy or stupidity, and in latter stages fascism.

Welcome
As an American citizen I cannot say that I am proud of what many US Govts. have done to other nations and the one in power now is one of the worst in my life time. I do like what America is suppossed to stand for but lately many Americans seems to have forgoten those ideals in favor of shoving our "democracy"which is in reality a Plutocracy onto other countries. In reality, what the USA does is Imperialism!

What is going on in Iraq now is a travesty! I am ashamed of what this Govt. that is supposed to represent me is doing! I am also PIST OFF!!!

J. Kerry should change his mind about "staying the course" and state that the US policy in Iraq has failed and it's time to bring the troops back the the USA! I would respect him a whole lot more if he did so. He once had that courage in another failed war that brought misery and death to another little country, remember?

Welcome yilmaz! I was in e-mail contact with Chomsky for a bit during his last fiasco with his politics. He was, of course, unfairly criticized. My brother is working on a PhD in linguistics, and he is a great admirer of Chomsky's work in that field.

I find it amusing how the most advanced nation in the world is also the dumbest when it comes to basic simple ideas. I am an MBA aspirant just finishing up my thesis, hope to go on my phd next year. I studied grades7- freshman year in the US so I think I have a moderate grasp of the dominant cultural and political models in the US. As a young acedemician (I am also an RA) in the field of management I find that the most influential management theories and models have originated in the US. We teach our youngsters here that the best way to manage and motivate people is to always try and offer a win-win proposition.

That really is the only approach that works when you are managing organiztions, be it a micro business with only 5 workers or a society, or even the world as the US is currently engaged to manage the globe. If you can make the fact that you are exploiting an overseas nation of their natural resources or capital accumilation you have to give something valuable back. It just doesnt work any other way. You give me oil, I give you modern technology or maybe I buy oil from you but you invest that money back into my economy sort of thing. Now just how difficult is it to come up with win-win propositions and convince the others on the strong points of that proposition? Japan has been able to do it for rather long, that's how they became a strong economy, true they are having some difficulties there but it's nothing as bad as the USA.

I feel that the US as the remaining superpower owes it to the rest of the world to be an honest broker of peace, stability and prosperity where ever it is engaged. If it doesnt do so it has two options, either to disengage and leave world affairs and live in peace withing its domestic context, or suffer the consequences of its unfairness. The population of the "western world" is what maybe roughly a billion, that still leaves about five billion "others" with a growing vandetta against the US.

America is on a collision path, and it is going down that path really really fast. Up next is the further destabilization in the mid east. Saudi Arabia is a very likely flash point, with king fahd terminally ill (paralyzed at the moment) no clear heir to the throne, and an economy on the verge of implosion there is a very likelyhood of civil unrest unless the US steps in, and if it does step in there is a certain civil war. It is a loose-loose proposition given that his highness george II. is as adept at foreign policy issues as a 5 year older given the command of the space shuttle would be the whole region is sure to flare up.

I know I have already written much but one final remark that I must make. It was middle east politics that finished off the british empire (yes of course wwII debts and other factors came into play but M.E. was the straw that broke the camels back) and it may just be the end of the US as the unchallanged super power. I just hope that the policies advocated in the "grand chess board" by Brzezinski are not fallowed to completion as it would mean the doom of the mankind, not just America or Americans.

Iraq is what happens when you're the only world super power and possess the biggest guns.

Hypothetically, if the world's only super power were say, Germany or France, it would be highly unlikely the USA would've invaded and occupied a sovereign nation, be it Iraq or any other nation.

But, realizing the PNAC agenda is fuel for the neocon grist.

The numbers of Presidential lies should increase dramatically after Bush and Chaney have given their latest testimony.