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What freedoms do we take for granted?

 
 
Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2014 01:24 pm
watching what is happening overseas makes us fortunate to live somewhere where are liberties, well most of them are ours. If we had to do a switcheroo with another nation. what freedoms do we have here do you think should be given to another nation since it is abused? loaded question
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2014 01:28 pm
@trishathelizardqueen,
trishathelizardqueen wrote:
watching what is happening overseas makes us fortunate
to live somewhere where are liberties,
well most of them are ours.
It was not a question of luck.
After we threw out the King of England,
we were free to create a new government, if we wanted to. We did.
The creation had NO POWER,
other than what we gave the damned thing. We made it ourselves.
It was not a question of luck.



trishathelizardqueen wrote:
If we had to do a switcheroo with another nation,
what freedoms do we have here do you think should be given
to another nation since it is abused? loaded question
The right to keep and bear arms, to keep that government in line!





David
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2014 01:30 pm
The right to vote the Teabillies and Teapublicans out.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2014 01:35 pm

The Right to tar & feather politicians if thay commit socialism on us!





David
raprap
 
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Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2014 08:18 pm
The Right to tar & feather politicians if they use religion to justify acts of prejudice and bigotry. Are you listening Arizona?


Rap
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2014 08:57 pm
@raprap,
Did thay invoke religion ?
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2014 10:21 pm
The right to vote. Courts in America routinely vacate the votes of millions of people on the supposed grounds that the laws violate the Consitution, when, in fact, the Constitution never mentions the issue in question at all. It is crystal clear that some courts will go through whatever tortured mis-analysis they have to in order to reach the conclusion that they want. Personally, I think that the right of the people to run their own government is the essence of the social contract. If one side of the social contract, specifically the government, materially nullifies it, then I don't see why the other side of the contract, that is, the people, should be obliged to go on obeying it unilaterally.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 22 Feb, 2014 10:31 pm
@Brandon9000,
When I was a kid, I seriously resented my being disenfranchized.
Accordingly, when thay stopped disenfranchizing me, I valued the right to vote.





David
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raprap
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 02:44 am
@OmSigDAVID,
"Sanctions discrimination in the name of religion."

Rap
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 09:38 am
@OmSigDAVID,
And that right is enumerated where exactly?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 01:03 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
And that right is enumerated where exactly?
Note that since its enactment in 1971,
the 26th Amendment mandates
the States and federal government
in regard to citizens over the age of 18:
"The right of citizens of the United States,
who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied
or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."

It fails to address the rights
of citizens below that age
and it does not inhibit nor abrogate them.
The Amendment was simply silent in regard to the rights of other people.

Without re-examining every word of the Constitution,
my memory tells me that the right to vote reposes both in natural law
and in Article 4 Sections 2 and 4 of the US Constitution
(regarding equality and a Republican Form of Government)
and Amendment 14 Section 1,
including its declaration of citizenship since birth
and its requirement of "equal protection of the laws."

I 'm not sure whether there r more provisions
than those; for the moment, I don t remember.
Kids have the natural right, the moral right
and the Constitutional Right to vote, based on
those pre-1971 earlier Constitutional provisions.
If kids are contemptuously kept out of voting booths,
then there is NO moral authority of government over them,
just naked bullying, no better than the Hells Angels or the Pagan Motorcycle clubs.
This is to say that if kids are raped out of their natural rights to participate in democracy,
then morally, thay have NO reason to be loyal to the governments
that have so screwn them.

Those victims shud boo when the Flag goes by and give it the finger,
for just cause of disdainful discrimination.





David
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