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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2014 07:49 pm

Russia is accusing Ukraine of perfidy.

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140514/189825140/OPINION-Kievs-Use-of-UN-Symbol-Violates-Humanitarian-Law.html
revelette2
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 06:05 am
@oralloy,
I guess Russia has a point.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2014 09:06 pm

Victoria Nuland is on tonight's Charlie Rose. No word on whether she'll offer any choice words about the EU.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 08:02 am
EU signs pacts with Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova

Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova have signed partnership agreements with the European Union, in a move strongly opposed by Russia.

The pact - which would bind the three countries more closely to the West both economically and politically - is at the heart of the crisis in Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said making Ukraine choose between Russia and the EU would split it in two.

A ceasefire with pro-Russian rebels in east Ukraine is due to end on Friday.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, in Brussels to sign the pact, said he would take a decision on an extension to the truce when he arrived back in Kiev later on Friday.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said he would welcome an extension, but not if it were simply an ultimatum for separatists to lay down their arms.

Meanwhile the United Nations refugee agency said there had been a sharp rise in the numbers of displaced people in eastern Ukraine in the past week, with 16,400 people fleeing the area.

The total number internally displaced has reached 54,400, while a further 110,000 people left Ukraine for Russia this year.

There is a general sense of irritation or perhaps even anger here that Moscow has failed to convince countries like Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia not to sign this historic free trade deal today with the EU.

Moscow has economic concerns about these deals - it is worried that the Russian market could be flooded by cheap goods from the EU that would hit Russian producers.

More pressing for Moscow are the geopolitical concerns here - the whole idea of former Soviet states, countries that Moscow still views as being within its sphere of influence, drifting towards Europe and one day possibly becoming part of the EU - that really grates with Moscow, particularly in the case of Ukraine.

There's a lot of concern about what could happen in eastern Ukraine - the ceasefire announced a few days ago by Mr Poroshenko, and the ceasefire announced by armed separatist rebels, is due to expire today. It's unclear how things are going to develop later.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 08:07 am
@revelette2,
Did you read the post before yours, Rev? As is almost always the case, it is the USA that is the dirty party.

As amnesty international notes, all the bad things happening in the world, the USA is most often involved as a prime actor.
revelette2
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 10:40 am
@JTT,
Oh, well, of course. Rolling Eyes
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 10:46 am
@revelette2,
Quote:
A popular truism is that "the world changed" following 9/11. But what has changed? According to the great whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg, a silent coup has taken place in Washington and rampant militarism now rules. The Pentagon currently runs "special operations" – secret wars – in 124 countries. At home, rising poverty and a loss of liberty are the historic corollary of a perpetual war state. Add the risk of nuclear war, and the question is: why do we tolerate this?


The CIA is running operations in 124 countries. Do you think they are checking out the hotels and beaches for USA tourists?

How deep is the delusion?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 10:56 am
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

Oh, well, of course. Rolling Eyes


He's persistent if nothing else.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 11:04 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
There's you, Finn, just telling how up front you are in dealing with these issues.

You define 'insipid' and yet you haven't the smarts to lose the sig line. As you often ask others - are you really that thick?
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 11:08 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
The CIA in 124 countries. What do you suppose they are doing?
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 11:16 am
I guess Finn and Rev must be carefully crafting their responses.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 11:41 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

I guess Finn and Rev must be carefully crafting their responses.

Either that or they have a real life.....
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 11:51 am
@hawkeye10,
Lame lame lame, Hawk. You too know just how evil the USA is, has been, and you too make phony excuses.

The terrorist group CIA in 124 countries. What do you think they are doing?
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2014 01:05 pm
Who is the American admin supporting, Ukraine or the Donetsk separatists?
And whose side should the rest of us be on?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Jul, 2014 04:38 am

Ukraine says that a Russian fighter jet has shot down a Ukrainian fighter jet, in Ukrainian airspace.

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russian-military-plane-shot-down-ukrainian-su-25-aircraft-in-ukraine-356422.html
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 03:23 am
Was kind of expecting this thread to take off today, given the events of the last 24 hours
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 18 Jul, 2014 04:30 am
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:
Was kind of expecting this thread to take off today, given the events of the last 24 hours

There is this thread:

http://able2know.org/topic/249720-1

It isn't super active, and some of the posts were just me losing my patience at a couple of irritating posters, but it seems to be the locus of a2k commentary/reaction to the event.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 09:35 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/25/world/europe/ukraine-parliament-takes-step-toward-elections.html

KIEV, Ukraine -- Prime Minister Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk, a pro-Western technocrat who has guided the Ukrainian government through the tumultous months since the ouster of President Viktor F. Yanukovyvch, resigned abruptly on Thursday, after the governing coalition of Parliament collapsed.

“I declare my resignation in connection with the collapse of the coalition and blocking of government initiatives,” Mr. Yatsenyuk said from the rostrum of Parliament, according to Ukrainian news services.

Earlier in the day, two major parties announced they were leaving the governing coalition, a step that would allow President Petro O. Poroshenko to dissolve Parliament and call elections for next fall.

That announcement followed weeks of negotiations between the parties, but the move was apparently not supported by Mr. Yatsenyuk’s Fatherland Party, which is led by the former prime minister, Yulia V. Tymoshenko, who had challenged Mr. Poroshenko for the presidency.

Under the Ukrainian Constitution, the Parliament chooses the prime minister, and members must vote to accept a resignation. It was not immediately clear if Mr. Yatsenyuk’s announcement meant he was leaving the government or if relinquishing the prime ministership was a symbolic step.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 09:39 am
As it seems (the bill is already discussed in parliament) the early parliamentary elections might be on September 28, 2014.
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