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U.S. Contractor Fired for Military Coffin Photo

 
 
Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 02:22 pm
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/04/22/400_seattletimes2304,0.jpg

SEATTLE - A cargo worker whose photograph of flag-draped coffins bearing the remains of U.S. soldiers was published on a newspaper's front page was fired by the military contractor that employed her.

Tami Silicio, 50, was fired Wednesday by Maytag Aircraft Corp. after military officials raised "very specific concerns" related to the photograph, said William L. Silva, Maytag president. The photo was taken in Kuwait.

Silva declined to identify the Pentagon's concerns but said Silicio violated company and federal government rules. He declined to comment further.

Silicio said she hoped the photo of the 20 flag-draped coffins awaiting transport from Kuwait to the United States would show the relatives of soldiers killed in Iraq that civilian and military crews return the remains of their loved ones with care and devotion.

"It wasn't my intent to lose my job or become famous or anything," Silicio said.

Silicio's husband and co-worker, David Landry, was also fired, but the company gave no reason for his dismissal.

Under a policy adopted in 1991, the Pentagon bars news organizations from photographing caskets being returned to the United States, saying publication of such photos would be insensitive to bereaved families. Critics say the public is being denied information by not being able to see photos of coffins coming back from Iraq.

Silicio took the photograph in a cargo plane about to depart from Kuwait International Airport earlier this month. She sent the photo to a stateside friend who provided it to The Seattle Times, which then obtained permission from Silicio to publish it without compensation.

The photo appeared in the center of the newspaper's front page in its Sunday's editions, along with an article on the war in Iraq and a feature on Silicio's job in Kuwait. It was then posted on Web sites and has been widely discussed on the Internet.

The Times reported Thursday that its decision to print the photograph was supported in most of the e-mails and telephone calls it has received.

Executive Editor Michael R. Fancher wrote about the decision to print the photograph in his weekly column in Sunday's editions and he appeared Wednesday on ABC's "Good Morning America" with U.S. Rep. Mike Castle, R-Del., who supports the Pentagon ban. Delaware is home to the military mortuary at Dover Air Force Base, where all remains first arrive in the United States from overseas.

"Some will see the picture as an anti-war statement because the image is reminiscent of photos from the Vietnam era" of caskets with casualties arriving in the United States, Fancher wrote, "but that isn't Silicio's or The Times' motivation."

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I don't agree with that policy. I know I've seen pictures of servicemen removing flag-draped coffins from airplanes, so it looks like it's not always enforced.
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Deecups36
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 02:27 pm
Gosh, this policy has served Bush very well in the Iraq war as the dead bodies of Americans killed for Haliburton now exceed 700.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 02:28 pm
Being discussed here.
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 03:34 pm
Deecups36 wrote:
Gosh, this policy has served Bush very well in the Iraq war as the dead bodies of Americans killed for Haliburton now exceed 700.

Quote:
Under a policy adopted in 1991, the Pentagon bars news organizations from photographing caskets being returned to the United States...

This policy was in place when Bush took office.

And I see this as a political topic, not General News. That's why I didn't check there. I guess it's a judgment call.
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suzy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 04:33 pm
Personally, I don't find photos like that offensive.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 04:44 pm
Nor I. The lack of them desensitizes.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 05:24 pm
The picture graphically brings the war home to the American people. To this point all we hear are numbers and statistics. A picture is worth a thousand words. That is something this administration does not want he public to see.
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suzy
 
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Reply Thu 22 Apr, 2004 05:40 pm
Republicans should go hog-wild over pictures like these, since they're always talking gloriously and proudly about the sacrifice our soldiers make, as if we didn't know that. But to let us see that sacrifice?
Oh, no...!
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 12:13 am
This policy has been in place since 1991.It isnt anything new.
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pistoff
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 01:08 am
Bodies
Maybe they should show American troops with with their bloody stumps, their heads blown off with blood pouring out, videos of troops buring alive and screaming.
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John Webb
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 02:10 am
The Bush mottos "Lie, Lie, Lie." "Cover-up, Cover-up, Cover-up." "The truth costs votes."Twisted Evil
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 09:17 am
Re: Bodies
pistoff wrote:
Maybe they should show American troops with with their bloody stumps, their heads blown off with blood pouring out, videos of troops buring alive and screaming.


There are already enough sites out there for people with strange fetishes. No need for a politicized one.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 09:44 am
Pentagon Angered by Soldier Coffin Photos
DOVER, Del. (AP) - Photographs of flag-draped cases bearing American casualties from Iraq should not have been made public under a Pentagon policy prohibiting media coverage of human remains, officials said. "Quite frankly, we don't want the remains of our service members who have made the ultimate sacrifice to be the subject of any kind of attention that is unwarranted or undignified," said John Molino, a deputy undersecretary of defense.

In what way is the showing of the coffins undignified. One would think from that statement these were photos of the actual remains. The motives of the pentagon and the administration are clear.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 09:51 am
It's undignified for this administration in that it pulls the cover off their dignity.
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mesquite
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 10:50 am
So far I have been unable to contact the website quoted in this article which appeared in today's Arizona Daily Star.

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Web site posts 361 photos of war coffins

THE NEW YORK TIMES

The Pentagon's ban on images of dead soldiers' homecomings at all military bases was circumvented Thursday, as hundreds of photographs of flag-draped coffins at Dover Air Force Base were released on the Internet by a Tucson-based Web site dedicated to fighting government secrecy.

The Web site, The Memory Hole (www.memoryhole.org), had filed a Freedom of Information Act request last year, seeking any pictures of coffins arriving from Iraq at the base in Delaware.

The Pentagon on Thursday labeled the Air Force Air Mobility Command's decision to grant the request a mistake, but news organizations quickly used a selection of the 361 images taken by Department of Defense photographers.

The release of the photographs came one day after a contractor working for the Pentagon fired a woman who had taken photos of coffins of war dead being loaded onto a transport plane in Kuwait. Her husband, a co-worker, was also fired after the pictures appeared in The Seattle Times on Sunday.

The contractor, Maytag Aircraft, said the woman, Tami Silicio and her husband, David Landry, had "violated Department of Defense and company policies."

The firing underscored the stringency with which the Pentagon and the Bush administration have pursued a policy of forbidding news organizations to show photographs of the homecomings of the war dead at military bases. They have argued the policy was put in place during the first war in Iraq, that it was simply an effort to protect the sensitivities of military families.

Executives at news organizations, many of whom have protested the policy, said Thursday night they had not known that the Defense Department itself was taking photographs of the coffins arriving home. That came to light only when Russ Kick, the operator of The Memory Hole, filed a Freedom of Information Act request.

Kick, who operates his Web site from Tucson, describes himself as "an information archaeologist." In his explanation for seeking the photos on his Web site he described filing a request for "all photographs showing caskets containing the remains of U.S. military personnel at Dover AFB."

Lt. Col. Jennifer Cassidy, an Air Force spokeswoman, said Thursday that no further copies would be distributed.

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John Webb
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 11:26 am
Mesquite (and others) try:

http://www.thememoryhole.org

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mesquite
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 11:50 am
Thanks John, I knew about the typo in the article , but still have not been able to contact the site. Have you? It could be just overloaded or maybe the C word.
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Deecups36
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 02:10 pm
This policy was in place when Bush took office.

Yes, this statement is accurate. Poppy Bush had the Pentagon put it in place not to protect the privacy of the dead soldier's families, but after Poppy Bush was seen laughing it up while at an event to commemorate fallen soldiers in the first Iraq War.

It's all a big joke to the Bush dynasty.
Evil or Very Mad
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John Webb
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 02:27 pm
Mesquite, I am having no problems using the link.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2004 03:56 pm
Link doesn't work here either. Tried several times and get "This page cannot be displayed."

Also doesn't work copying and pasting into IE address bar.
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