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When do we cease to exist?

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Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 10:25 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

I 've had it happen to me 2ice and I 'm baaaaak.
It is illusionary.

I bet you weren't brain dead. I'm not sure I get what your saying? Were you iced? Well...that slows down all metabolic processes giving the appearance of death..
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 10:59 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I 've had it happen to me 2ice and I 'm baaaaak.
It is illusionary.
Amazing! How far had you decomposed? Was anything missing when you came back?
Kiss me quick
There goes my upper lip
There goes my eyeball
Into your high ball
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 11:51 am
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I 've had it happen to me 2ice and I 'm baaaaak.
It is illusionary.

I bet you weren't brain dead. I'm not sure I get what your saying? Were you iced? Well...that slows down all metabolic processes giving the appearance of death..


Don't pay any attention, because he is going to insist that he died and came back...twice. And he is going to insist that he has had out-of-body experiences.

Can't comment on the latter except to say, "How do you know you are not deluding yourself in thinking that you did?"

The former will become much clearer when he finally does shed this mortal coil.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 04:10 pm
@Germlat,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

I 've had it happen to me 2ice and I 'm baaaaak.
It is illusionary.
Germlat wrote:

I bet you weren't brain dead.
U win the bet.


Germlat wrote:
I'm not sure I get what your saying? Were you iced?
No. I 'll take the word of my surgeon.
I was told that I died 2ice during 6 hours of surgery.
Un-like some folks I know, I don t have a memory of during death experience,
but I remember my out-of-body experiences on-the-job in court, in good health.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 04:13 pm
@neologist,

OmSigDAVID wrote:
I 've had it happen to me 2ice and I 'm baaaaak.
It is illusionary.
neologist wrote:
Amazing! How far had you decomposed? Was anything missing when you came back?
24 inches of dead bowel were missing.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 04:31 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
. . . but I remember my out-of-body experiences on-the-job in court, in good health.
Did you win?
Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 04:45 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Sometimes medical personnel can employ illusory terms such as, " you died twice", to help someone understand their heart wasn't beating....that is not true physical death....there is no coming back.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 04:47 pm
@neologist,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
. . . but I remember my out-of-body experiences on-the-job in court, in good health.
neologist wrote:
Did you win?
Settled. That 's what usually happens.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 04:57 pm
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:
Sometimes medical personnel can employ illusory terms such as, "you died twice",
to help someone understand their heart wasn't beating....that is not true physical death....
If u flatline on EEG, EKG and respiration for a while,
that is indeed "true physical death". Your denial is arbitrary.



neologist wrote:
there is no coming back.
That is factually incorrect. What supporting evidence have u ?
1OOOs of people have returned from death in hospitals.
This is shown on their hospital records.

According to pollster George Gallop, back in the 1980s,
millions of people have been brought back to life in hospitals.
This is most ofen by defibrillation.
MWal
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 05:13 pm
Truly... When your forgotten, living or dead.
Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 05:32 pm
@MWal,
Interesting take...do you mean wether physically or one's legacy? I can certainly get on board with that.
MWal
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2014 07:58 pm
@Germlat,
Physically
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 12:27 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Germlat wrote:
Sometimes medical personnel can employ illusory terms such as, "you died twice",
to help someone understand their heart wasn't beating....that is not true physical death....
If u flatline on EEG, EKG and respiration for a while,
that is indeed "true physical death". Your denial is arbitrary.



neologist wrote:
there is no coming back.
That is factually incorrect. What supporting evidence have u ?
1OOOs of people have returned from death in hospitals.
This is shown on their hospital records.

According to pollster George Gallop, back in the 1980s,

millions of people have been brought back to life in hospitals.
This is most ofen by defibrillation.


Defibrillation cannot bring back the dead...only the dying. It impedes death.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 12:28 pm
@MWal,
MWal wrote:

Physically

Ok ...that wasn't as interesting as I hoped.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 12:40 pm
@Germlat,
David as usual doesn't know what he's talking about. Death is when there's no brain activity.

Ergo; if anyone sees themselves on their death bed, they still have brain activity.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 01:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
There are many things we don't understand...it's not necessarily paranormal( I know you get it...others don't). People used to think schizophrenics were "demon" possessed. Obviously now we understand mental illness. I think there's a reasonable explanation for everything...no need to resort to superstition. But, there are many that feel way to threatened to admit, we simply don't understand yet.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 01:27 pm
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:

There are many things we don't understand...it's not necessarily paranormal( I know you get it...others don't). People used to think schizophrenics were "demon" possessed. Obviously now we understand mental illness. I think there's a reasonable explanation for everything...no need to resort to superstition. But, there are many that feel way to threatened to admit, we simply don't understand yet.


When David can tell us that he viewed a mortician embalming him...or a pathologist doing an autopsy on him...

...I think it is safe to question whether he was actually dead when he "saw what he says he saw."
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 01:39 pm
@Frank Apisa,
That would be something...wouldn't it...
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 01:39 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank wrote:
When David can tell us that he viewed a mortician embalming him...or a pathologist doing an autopsy on him...
Eek! How'd you like to wake up during that?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2014 01:46 pm
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:

That would be something...wouldn't it...


It certainly would establish David's point a mite better than the current narrative does.
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