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Droughts and floods

 
 
Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2014 08:42 am
Two pieces of news from today's BBC. Any thoughts, comments?

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California's water agency has announced it may for the first time be unable to deliver water to local agencies, amid a worsening drought.

Two-thirds of state residents and 1m acres (404,500 hectares) of farmland get part or all of their drinking and irrigation supplies from the agency.

A state-wide drought was declared earlier this month, as the largest reservoirs sank to record low levels.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25996522

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High tides and gale force winds could bring more flooding to parts of south-west England and the Midlands, the Environment Agency has warned.

It has five severe flood warnings - meaning a danger to life - three on the Severn estuary near Gloucester and two on the north Cornwall coast.

Lesser warnings affect many parts of Britain including western Wales and the flood-hit Somerset Levels.

Cobra, the government's emergency committee, is meeting later.

Discussions on Friday evening, in what was the 16th Cobra meeting since storms hit Britain in December, were chaired by Environment Secretary Owen Paterson, who urged residents to "listen to all the advice being issued".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25996176
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2014 09:00 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Two pieces of news from today's BBC. Any thoughts, comments?

Quote:
California's water agency has announced it may for the first time be unable to deliver water to local agencies, amid a worsening drought.

Two-thirds of state residents and 1m acres (404,500 hectares) of farmland get part or all of their drinking and irrigation supplies from the agency.

A state-wide drought was declared earlier this month, as the largest reservoirs sank to record low levels.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25996522

Quote:
High tides and gale force winds could bring more flooding to parts of south-west England and the Midlands, the Environment Agency has warned.

It has five severe flood warnings - meaning a danger to life - three on the Severn estuary near Gloucester and two on the north Cornwall coast.

Lesser warnings affect many parts of Britain including western Wales and the flood-hit Somerset Levels.

Cobra, the government's emergency committee, is meeting later.

Discussions on Friday evening, in what was the 16th Cobra meeting since storms hit Britain in December, were chaired by Environment Secretary Owen Paterson, who urged residents to "listen to all the advice being issued".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25996176


Here in the US we have areas that are regularly in drought conditions and areas that are regularly severely flooded.

Seems we should be able to establish a system of pipelines (much like the pipelines that carry oil and natural gas) to carry water from flooded areas to areas that are in need of it.

Obviously it is a cost consideration problem....and in our capitalism unfettered system, the only way it will ever happen is if a very few will be able to get obscenely rich doing it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2014 10:35 am
@Frank Apisa,
Over here the environment agency has come under a lot of criticism, particularly for how they've behaved in the Somerset Levels. This is artificial land reclaimed from the sea, and needs constant maintenance like dredging the rivers. This hasn't been done, a lot of the Levels have been under water since Christmas, and they've only sent the pumps in this week.

Glastonbury was an island, and Joseph of Arimathea is supposed to have sailed there with Jesus when Jesus was a boy, and later to have sailed there with the Holy Grail.
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jcboy
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2014 07:57 pm
@izzythepush,
Not since the Little Ice Age has water been so scarce in California, suffering through its first officially declared 'exceptional drought'. Entire cities are at risk of losing their entire water supply.

California May Have Hit Its Driest Point In 500 Years, And The Effects Are Frightening

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California is dry as a bone, and the effects are like something out of an apocalyptic film.

Cities are running out of water. Communities are fighting over what little water there is. Local governments are imposing rationing coupled with steep fines. Fires are ravaging the state. Entire species and industries are threatened.

For California, 2013 was the driest year since the state started measuring rainfall in 1849. Paleoclimatologist B. Lynn Ingram says that, according to the width of old tree rings, California hasn’t been this dry for about 500 years.

Gov. Jerry Brown has declared an emergency, President Barack Obama has pledged his support, and state and federal officials are stepping in to protect the state's most vulnerable groups. Californians of various faiths have taken to holding prayer sessions, looking to the heavens for rain. Here are some of the drought's effects so far.


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1580131/thumbs/o-FOLSOM-LAKE-900.jpg?6
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2014 09:10 pm
@izzythepush,
California has shown a remarkable ability to steal water from Arizona and Colorado.
roger
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2014 09:12 pm
@roger,
Our water goes to Texas, of course. Not that New Mexico is anyone's idea of wet, but the Navajo tribe has senior water right to the San Juan River, and sends convoys of hay laden trucks to Texas.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 1 Feb, 2014 09:28 pm
@roger,
California produces 15% of the food in the US, and our farms and wineries require a lot of water.

I'm surprised at the nonchalant behavior of our water resources board. Our water resevoirs are at 31% of capacity. Not good.
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 3 Feb, 2014 07:34 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
California produces 15% of the food in the US, and our farms and wineries require a lot of water.


The odd thing to me is, thus far, the only shortage predicted has been for the avocado crop. I did see a piece on CBS(?) where a wine grower said they would have less grapes, less wine, but maybe better wine.

Joe(no one is panicking yet)Nation
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 3 Feb, 2014 10:46 am
California has a fault line that can cause major havoc with an earthquake. It also has a climate that can kill old folks quickly on a string of over 100 degree Fahrenheit days. So, to think that water should not be a problem might just be the inability to realize that too many people live there, for what Mother Nature provided.

I won't even broach the concerns about floods, since it is not the problem of the U.S.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 3 Feb, 2014 02:08 pm
@Foofie,
You never have anything useful to say. Lots of people live in California, and that's not going to change. What about saying something useful, like investigating the viability of desalination plants. California has a pretty long coastline.

As for flooding, it's happened before and it will happen again.

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Festivalgoers at Venice, or anywhere else, are unused to having their attention-span tested by a four-hour documentary, especially when the screenings are subject to delay, as this one was, for mysterious "technical reasons". But Spike Lee's history of the Katrina disaster in New Orleans, sonorously-named When The Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts, commanded everyone's attention - and even opened a few tear ducts.
Anti-Bush sentiments triggered the traditional approving whoops: the unhappy US president is now the pantomime villain for all European film festivals with a doc or two on the menu. But Lee's movie was notable for how measured its judgments were, and even ventured some politically incorrect views about the city itself.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/sep/02/filmfestivals.hurricanekatrina

Actually there is something positive you could. You could move to California, and that would make it a less attractive place to live.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 3 Feb, 2014 02:26 pm
@izzythepush,
ooooh. That one belongs on the insult thread. Mr. Green
Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 12:11 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Actually there is something positive you could. You could move to California, and that would make it a less attractive place to live.


The west coast has a too plastic culture, in my opinion. I prefer NYC. Many people go to California that are not content elsewhere, oftentimes.

What seems incongruous about this thread is that while a drought in the U.S. is important, aren't there equally important places on the Earth to then talk about floods? India? China? Another continent; comparing apples to apples.
Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 12:12 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

ooooh. That one belongs on the insult thread. Mr. Green


That was not an insult. It was just a fact.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 12:55 pm
@Foofie,
I'm glad it that way. If you moved to California it would make it a less attractive place to live.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 12:56 pm
@Foofie,
Both stories appeared on the BBC website on the same day. Whilst you may claim to not want to discuss anything outside the USA, there are plenty on A2K who do.
Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:24 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Both stories appeared on the BBC website on the same day. Whilst you may claim to not want to discuss anything outside the USA, there are plenty on A2K who do.


Yes, I know. Some might be virtual citizens of the world, I would guess. I am just a citizen of the U.S.A., virtually and literally.

Also, under the guise of caring about the world, I wonder how many really want to control the world. Sort of like the goal of a universal religion, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps (quizas, quizas, quizas).
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:26 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
Also, under the guise of caring about the world, I wonder how many really want to control the world. Sort of like the goal of any universal religion.


That has to be the biggest load of paranoid nonsense you've ever written.
Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:29 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Foofie wrote:
Also, under the guise of caring about the world, I wonder how many really want to control the world. Sort of like the goal of any universal religion.


That has to be the biggest load of paranoid nonsense you've ever written.


And the Thirty Years War never happened.
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