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Where are all of the SOTU Threads?

 
 
panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 03:10 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Atlanta shutting down because they got 2 inches of snow is yet another iteration of the lesson that we trust modern government to be competent our own peril.

Wow! What a bizarre leap of logic hawk.
Anybody who lives in the South knows 2 inches of snow will shut down a city.
Even more so in DC where I grew up.
It's always been that way no matter what administration is in power.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 03:10 pm
Hawkeye says:
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We absolutly should not let government do anything until we do, as they will almost assuredly **** it up(see obamacare).


If I am not mistaken, the software for Obamacare was written by PRIVATE industry under contract to the government. It was PRIVATE industry that screwed up ultimately, that was unable to deliver the goods. Private enterprise as opposed to government is not the panacea that you seem to think it is.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 03:22 pm
@MontereyJack,
It would have been a different story if they had used a US company instead of outsourcing to a Canadian company. By the way how has Obamacare turned out for you?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 04:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
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If I am not mistaken, the software for Obamacare was written by PRIVATE industry under contract to the government.
choosing to outsource the work does not outsource the responsibility, and furthermore the choice to outsource the work was yet another stupid decision by team Obama.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 04:13 pm
@panzade,
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Wow! What a bizarre leap of logic hawk.
Anybody who lives in the South knows 2 inches of snow will shut down a city.

wrong, this did not have to happen, it happened because government did not properly use the assets that it has to keep roads open

Quote:
Around noon on Wednesday, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal said the state didn't have enough trucks in the Atlanta metropolitan area on Tuesday because weather forecasts had showed the storm was stronger to the south. At a news conference, reporters grilled the governor as to why the state response wasn't quicker and more robust. Mr. Deal said weather predictions had called for "a dusting" of snow and that state officials planned accordingly.

"I think we have done a reasonable job," he said, saying shutting down the city on "maybes" wouldn't have made sense. If the storm had been minor, he would have been criticized for overreacting, he said.

He said once officials realized the magnitude of the storm, they sent more trucks to salt and plow, but it was too late because roads were jammed with stranded trucks and cars. "I am willing to take whatever blame comes my way," Mr. Deal said, adding, "We all have some lessons to learn."

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303277704579349860295826336

This was a another government management **** up plan and simple. Just like the obamacare website.

Weather expert refuting of the government charge of lack of warning is found here:
http://meteorologistandtheatlantasnow2014.blogspot.com/2014/01/an-open-thank-you-letter-to-atlanta.html
panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 04:27 pm
@hawkeye10,
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This was a another government management **** up plan and simple. Just like the obamacare website.

Another strange leap of logic.
This Republican Governor's failure is tied to Obamacare?
You're an anarchist and as such there's not much to debate with you since you equate the national government with state government.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 04:47 pm
@panzade,
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You're an anarchist and as such there's not much to debate with you since you equate the national government with state government.


under that theory I cant connect that farmworkers and fast food workers and walmart employees all make min wage and conclude that business runners will **** over labor if given the chance, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME INDUSTRIES!

Your logic is non existent.
panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 05:00 pm
@hawkeye10,
No disrespect but I don't think you'd be happy no matter who was in charge.
You have a thing about resisting authority that I can't fathom.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 05:08 pm
@panzade,
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You have a thing about resisting authority that I can't fathom.


Living in modern times where authority has far more often been abused then used with in reasonable morality accounts for it. How did you figure we got to a place where the 1% skims off 95% of productivity gains for themselves?

WAKE UP!
panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 05:23 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Living in modern times where authority has far more often been abused then used

So in non-modern times authority wasn't abused?
I don't get what you're saying
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How did you figure we got to a place where the 1% skims off 95% of productivity gains for themselves?

I figured guys like you supported the skimmers figuring that one day you'd be a skimmer and not a skimee.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 05:25 pm
@panzade,
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I figured guys like you supported the skimmers figuring that one day you'd be a skimmer and not a skimee.


He says of the self identified socialist, who has often opined that the R party needs to die. Drunk
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 05:29 pm
Hawkeye says:
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How did you figure we got to a place where the 1% skims off 95% of productivity gains for themselves?


Gee, hawk, maybe it's because the 1%, who are in the PRIVATE economy, not government, are the ones who decide what the 99% gets paid and just decided to keep it for themselves. Maybe it's because they bought off and brainwashed Republicans that they are "job creators" and deserve to keep all the tax cuts the W. Bush administration engineered for them, rather than ending those tax breaks, which the Republicans in 2001 swore up and down, cross their hearts and hope to die, were TEMPORARY.
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 05:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
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self identified socialist, who has often opined that the R party needs to die.

Not a socialist and never said the GOP has to die...just evolve because it is dying
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 05:56 pm
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

The economy is doing ok under the circumstances. The circumstances being a legislative branch that blocks every effort to pass bills...to improve the economy.
The geopolitical situation...could be worse...call it a wash.

Government respect for the Bill Of Rights.
This is a puzzle. Which of them is being disrespected?

NSA indiscriminate spying on citizens, secret FISA courts, warrantless wiretaps, cameras on street corners...any of this ringing a bell? Even if you could make a case that some of these things are technically not violations, they are certainly contrary to the spirit.

And, by the way, the economy sucks. The gap between rich and poor is huge, the average person has huge difficulty affording college or buying a house, and the unemployment figures are most likely nonsense. Everyone's fault except the president apparently.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 06:00 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

I can see the fourth being legitimate as a right being taken away, but the second? Please....

As far as the GOP response, I would be embarrassed were I a republican.

What exactly do you mean when you say that the 2nd Amendment isn't a legitimate right?
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 08:16 pm
@Brandon9000,
Brandon9000 wrote:

revelette2 wrote:

I can see the fourth being legitimate as a right being taken away, but the second? Please....

As far as the GOP response, I would be embarrassed were I a republican.

What exactly do you mean when you say that the 2nd Amendment isn't a legitimate right?


I am hoping it was more of a belief that the 2nd amendment is not being taken away then a legitimate right...

As a native NYer Coumo is a terrible anti second amendment Gov. I am REALLY hoping he gets voted out in Nov.
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 10:05 pm
@Brandon9000,
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And, by the way, the economy sucks. The gap between rich and poor is huge

You don't see the irony of those two sentences nestled together?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jan, 2014 11:41 pm
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

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And, by the way, the economy sucks. The gap between rich and poor is huge

You don't see the irony of those two sentences nestled together?


Were is it? A fractured collective can be expected to produce many ills, to include a bad economy, in my opinion.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2014 05:44 am
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

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And, by the way, the economy sucks. The gap between rich and poor is huge

You don't see the irony of those two sentences nestled together?

Both statements are true. The general economic situation is poor and the standard of living has fallen. More of the capital is concentrated in the hands of the top 1%.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jan, 2014 07:10 am
@panzade,
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I figured guys like you supported the skimmers figuring that one day you'd be a skimmer and not a skimee.


Joe(nailed it)Nation
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