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Woodward book revelations re Bush wars

 
 
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2004 04:32 pm
He was very shifty and evasive answering a question on this today at the press conference; I heard it on the radio. He "couldn't remember".
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2004 04:33 pm
Followed by an answer that was essentially, "oh, that meeting..."
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unknown man
 
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Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2004 06:39 pm
Or the "what was your largest mistake?" question.
His answer for that was classic.
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pistoff
 
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Reply Sat 17 Apr, 2004 01:46 am
A Criminal act?
"...The end of July 2002, they need $700 million, a large amount of money for all these tasks. And the president approves it. But Congress doesn't know and it is done. They get the money from a supplemental appropriation for the Afghan War, which Congress has approved. ...Some people are gonna look at a document called the Constitution which says that no money will be drawn from the treasury unless appropriated by Congress. Congress was totally in the dark on this." Bob Woodward


*Isn't that a crime?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 17 Apr, 2004 10:24 am
Journalist Shares War Secrets
Journalist Shares War Secrets
April 16, 2004
CBS News

Legendary journalist Bob Woodward discusses his new book, which reveals secret details of the White House's plans to attack Iraq, for the first time on television in an interview with correspondent Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes, Sunday, April 18, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

Woodward interviewed 75 of the people who helped prepare for the war, including President Bush - the only source who speaks for attribution -- in the upcoming book, "Plan of Attack," published by Simon & Schuster. Both CBSNews.com and Simon & Schuster are units of Viacom.

In the interview, Woodward talked about how the administration was able to finance secret preparations for the Iraq war.

"President Bush, after a National Security Council meeting, takes Don Rumsfeld aside, collars him physically and takes him into a little cubbyhole room and closes the door and says, 'What have you got in terms of plans for Iraq?' What is the status of the war plan? I want you to get on it. I want you to keep it secret," says Woodward.

"... The end of July 2002, they need $700 million, a large amount of money for all these tasks. And the president approves it. But Congress doesn't know and it is done. They get the money from a supplemental appropriation for the Afghan War, which Congress has approved. ... Some people are gonna look at a document called the Constitution which says that no money will be drawn from the treasury unless appropriated by Congress. Congress was totally in the dark on this."

In a preview of Sunday's piece, Wallace described a conversation between Mr. Bush and CIA director George Tenet in which Tenet assured Mr. Bush that finding weapons of mass destruction was a "slam dunk."

Woodward writes of a White House meeting on Dec. 21, 2002, attended by CIA Director George Tenet and his top deputy John McLaughlin, who briefed the president and the vice president assuring them that Saddam Hussein definitely possessed weapons of mass destruction.

"McLaughlin has access to all the satellite photos, and he goes in and he has flip charts in the Oval Office," Woodward tells Wallace. "The president listens to all of this and McLaughlin's done. And and the president kind of, as he's inclined to do, says, 'Nice try,' but that isn't going to sell Joe Public. That isn't going to convince Joe Public."

Woodward writes in his book, "The presentation was a flop. The photos were not gripping. The intercepts were less than compelling. And then George Bush turns to George Tenet and says, 'this is the best we've got?'"

Says Woodward: "George Tenet's sitting on the couch, stands up, and says, 'Don't worry, it's a slam dunk case." And the president challenges him again and Tenet says, 'the case it's a slam dunk.'"

And that reassured the president?

"I asked the president about this and he said it was very important to have the CIA director, 'slam-dunk' is as I interpreted it, a sure thing, guaranteed."

Wallace tells Woodward this is an extraordinary statement to come from Tenet.

"It's a mistake," says Woodward. "Now the significance of that mistake, that was the key rationale for war."

Woodward will answer the following questions, among others, in the interview with Wallace Sunday night:

How early did President Bush begin planning the war on Iraq?

In the war's wake, which top administration officials now barely speak to each other?

What did the CIA say to President Bush to convince him that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?

Which foreign dignitary was told of the plans to attack Iraq days before even key cabinet members were briefed?

Which key advisers did President Bush ask - and not ask - about whether he should go to war with Iraq?

Why did the CIA think Saddam had been killed before the ground war even began?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 17 Apr, 2004 10:31 am
Blair refused offer of get-out clause on Iraq
Blair refused offer of get-out clause on Iraq
Revelations about run-up to war blight bid to present united front
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Saturday April 17, 2004
The Guardian UK

Tony Blair rejected George Bush's offer of keeping British troops out of Iraq, it emerged yesterday, as the two leaders mounted a united front on the year-long campaign.

The US president welcomed his closest ally to the White House on a day when an impressively sourced book by the Watergate journalist Bob Woodward laid bare damaging revelations of their conduct in the run-up to the war.

In the book, Plan of Attack, Mr Woodward writes that Mr Bush offered Mr Blair the option of keeping British troops out of the war because he was so concerned that the government might fall. Mr Blair rejected the offer.

The book, to be serialised in the Washington Post today, also says that Mr Bush asked the Pentagon to draw up plans for the invasion of Iraq as early as November 2001, keeping it a secret from the CIA and his national security staff.

The disclosures are provocative. Mr Blair will be asked to justify a decision to go to war when he had a chance to keep British troops out of harm's way with no political sanction.

For Mr Bush, who has suffered a steady erosion in his approval ratings, it becomes even more urgent to turn the page on Iraq before it begins to hurt him in the elections in November. An opinion poll released yesterday by the National Annenberg Election Survey found that 56% of Americans now believe the president has no clear plan for resolving the situation in Iraq.

The poll results came as the Arabic television station Al Jazeera last night broadcast a tape that appeared to show a US soldier being held by gunmen after being captured in an attack on a convoy last week. The man identified himself as Keith Matthew Maupin and is the first US soldier held hostage in recent kidnappings

Both leaders yesterday gave no sign of wavering, emphasising their commitment to the June 30 deadline for a transfer of power to Iraqis. Mr Bush also said the US would not bolt from the conflict.

The united front extended to the Middle East conflict, where Mr Blair defied domestic critics to reaffirm his support for Washington's seismic policy shift on Jewish settlements, revealed by Mr Bush during a visit by the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, on Wednesday.

There also appeared to be a new convergence between the Bush administration and the UN on the new dispensation for Iraq. Mr Bush signalled that Washington was eager for a greater UN role, saying he welcomed the proposals on a transitional authority presented by Lakhdar Brahimi, special adviser on Iraq to the secretary general, Kofi Annan.

But the main preoccupation of both men yesterday appeared to be to convince their own people, as well as to the Arab world, to look towards the potential of a better future, rather than dwell on the recent violence.

"You just imagine an Iraq, stable and prosperous and democratic," Mr Blair said. "Iraq run by the Iraqis, the wealth of that country owned by the Iraqis, and a symbol of hope and democracy in the Middle East."

But to Mr Bush's evident annoyance, the past was inescapable yesterday. The Woodward book describes how on November 21 2001, halfway through the Afghan war, the president pulled his defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, aside near the White House situation room to ask about his war strategy for Iraq. When Mr Rumsfeld indicated it was outdated, Mr Bush urged him to draft a new plan, but to keep it secret, keeping the CIA director, George Tenet, out of the loop. The national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, was also not fully informed.

"I knew what would happen if people thought we were developing a potential war plan for Iraq," the book quotes Mr Bush as saying in an interview two years later. "It was such a high-stakes moment and ... it would look like that I was anxious to go to war."

Asked about the episode at the summit yesterday, Mr Bush said he could not remember exact dates, but that on September 15 2001, "I sat down with my national security team to discuss the response, and the subject of Iraq came up. And I said as plainly as I possibly could: 'We'll focus on Afghanistan; that's where we will focus'."

Mr Blair can expect to face his questioners on his return today. A report on the book in yesterday's Washington Post said that by early January 2003 Mr Bush had made up his mind to take military action against Iraq, and only delayed it until March to give Mr Blair time to seek a second UN resolution because he [Bush] was "so concerned that the government of his closest ally ... might fall.

"Bush later gave Blair the option of withholding British troops from combat, which Blair rejected," the report said.

The claim is likely to be seized on by critics of the war as evidence that Mr Blair spurned a "get-out clause" which would have avoided British casualties without offending the Americans.

In addition, Mr Blair will be asked to reconcile Britain's official posture in early 2003 - that it would allow the UN weapons inspectors to perform their mission in Iraq - with the picture that emerges from Mr Woodward's book of a US leader set on war.

For Mr Blair, the criticism marks a departure from the past few days, when he has scrambled to defend his support for Washington's policy in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Yesterday he insisted the Gaza agreement did not rule out future negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

Instead, Mr Blair claimed that Mr Sharon's plan, which would consolidate Israeli control over the West Bank, presented an opportunity for the Palestinians.
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pistoff
 
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Reply Sat 17 Apr, 2004 03:36 pm
Criminal act
Doesn't the $700 Million diversion violate the Anti-Deficiency Act, which forbids the government from spending funds for purposes for which they were not appropriated?
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