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The administration was wrong yet again.

 
 
au1929
 
Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 11:41 am
More troops needed



WASHINGTON (Creators Syndicate) -- The New York Times Book Review of last Sunday received unusual attention in the Pentagon's corridors this week.
The review of "In the Company of Soldiers" by Washington Post war correspondent Rick Atkinson reveals the ridiculously low estimate made by the Pentagon's civilian leadership of troops needed in Iraq. Those words echoed eerily amid news of open fighting in Baghdad between U.S. troops and Shiite militia.
In the "afterword" following his brilliant account of the actual war, Atkinson wrote: "Pentagon planners in early May had predicted that U.S. troop levels would be down to 30,000 by late summer (of 2003)."
That was the first time that prediction had been seen in print by startled readers at the Defense Department. The existing 125,000 troop-level (currently at 135,000 because of replacements) is considered inadequate by the generals. Gen. John Abizaid, the regional commander-in-chief, is not a yes-man and has made clear he will ask for more troops if his subordinate commanders need them.
But Afghanistan also needs more troops. So, where will they come from? Nobody knows, and that connotes an overcommitment by the U.S. and a miscalculation at the Defense Department. The uniformed military does not speak out publicly, but the generals are outraged. A former national security official who held high office in previous Republican administrations considers the relationship at the Pentagon between civilians and the military as worse than at any time in his long career.
At the heart of this debate is the original belief by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's team that conquering U.S. troops would be welcomed by open arms in Iraq. In this highly political season, Democrats are replaying the debate of a year ago. Gen. Eric Shinseki, then about to leave as the Army's chief of staff, said "several hundred thousand soldiers" could be needed in Iraq. "Way off the mark," retorted Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.
Adhering to the principle of civilian control of the military and unvarying obedience to orders, the generals have not publicly expressed their opinion that Shinseki was much closer to the truth than Wolfowitz. However, the widely respected Abizaid made clear Monday that he was not going to be the fall guy if conditions in Iraq further deteriorate. If commanders want more troops to fulfill their mission, he will ask for them. That would leave Rumsfeld with no choice. The secretary announced on Tuesday that the generals "will get what they ask."
The problem of where to find these troops is not easily solved. There are simply no large units available and suitable for assignment. The 3rd Infantry Division was sent home early, but is now in the midst of Rumsfeld's "transformation" (from three brigades to five) and so is not ready to be inserted into combat. National Guard brigades could be activated, but the need for full training before going to war means they cannot help resolve the present crisis.
Democrats have demanded the use of foreign troops, but countries that previously refused to help without a United Nations mandate have not changed their minds. Britain announced Tuesday it was replacing an armored brigade, keeping their contribution at the present level of 8,700 troops but not adding any. Spain's new leftist government wants out. That leaves only Turkey willing to help, but the U.S. has ruled that out in the face of fierce Kurdish opposition.
Although underestimating troop needs in a less political environment would mean fixing the blame at the Pentagon, every issue today becomes a test of party loyalty. Sens. Richard Lugar and Chuck Hagel, the top two Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, are assailed by the White House for offering constructive criticism. With Sen. Edward M. Kennedy setting the Democratic line by saying that "Iraq is George Bush's Vietnam," sensible dialogue is impossible.
While Democrats roar, the generals are silent -- in public. Many confide that they will not cast their normal Republican votes on Nov. 2. They cannot bring themselves to vote for John Kerry, who has been a consistent Senate vote against the military. But these generals say they are unable to vote for Don Rumsfeld's boss, and so will not vote at all.
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saintsfanbrian
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 11:57 am
Yup you guessed it. This administration is to blame for everything. Clinton did nothing to destroy the number of military troops that we have or the number of vehicles and equipment that they have at their disposal.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 11:58 am
Certainly he did far less than did Rumsfeld, who made "downsizing" the military, and creating a "leaner, meaner" military, his first priority. The words i have used in quote marks are from Rumsfeld himself.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 11:59 am
and Bush I went to extreme lengths to increase our Military capability. (or not)
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saintsfanbrian
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 12:12 pm
I am not sure on that, all I know is that they were offering middle staff (e-5 to e-7) almost everything under the sun to get them to seperate early.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 12:18 pm
I know many people who were RIF'ed at 18 or so years, thus losing eligibility for retirement benefits. These folks ranged in grade from E-6 to O-5. Sad
I ETS'ed two months early (I was an E-5) thanks to one of the big "Early-Out" efforts in the Army in 1995. Interestingly enough, I entered a guard unit that was understrength, and remained so the entire time I was there, due to inadequate federal funding for the Washington National Guard Beureau.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 12:18 pm
It helps to have a little perspective. It has been a tradition in the United States, inherited from England, not to have a large standing army, as being a potential threat of tyranny. Only in the generation after the Civil War, and in the generation after the Second World War, has the United States maintained a large military establishment. I rather think it is more than a little disingenuous for anyone who supports this administration to complain about Clinton's cuts in the military, given that reducing the size of the armed forces was a stated goal of the Shrub in the 2000 campaign.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 12:30 pm
saintsfanbrian wrote:
Yup you guessed it. This administration is to blame for everything. Clinton did nothing to destroy the number of military troops that we have or the number of vehicles and equipment that they have at their disposal.

The Clinton administration actually spent more money on defense than the previous administration of President George H.W. Bush. The smaller outlays during the first Bush administration were developed and approved by then-Defense Secretary Cheney and then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 02:32 pm
From an earlier post. IMO It is worth repeating.
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General challenging Rumsfeld


By THOMAS M. DeFRANK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF

WASHINGTON - War is too important to be left to the generals, a French prime minister famously observed. Now, the generals have decided the Iraq war is too important to be left to the politicians.Gen. John Abizaid's decision to press for bulking up U.S. firepower is a polite but unmistakable rebuff to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who for months has rejected sending more troops to Iraq in a campaign year."What Abizaid is really doing is confronting Rumsfeld," a senior Pentagon official told the Daily News. "He's not going tolet the election calendar determine what he needs to do thejob."Civilian control of the military is a time-honored American tradition, saluted briskly if not always revered by military brass. As fighting in Iraq exploded last week, killing dozens of G.I.s, Abizaid and his senior commanders were emboldened to press the case for more combat strength, Pentagon sources said. A senior military official told The News that Abizaid, who speaks fluent Arabic and is regarded as more independent than his predecessor, Gen. Tommy Franks, has been repeatedly discouraged from asking for more soldiers because President Bush has publicly pledged to bring 25,000 troops home from Iraq before the November elections."Rumsfeld has made it clear tothe whole building that hewasn't interested in getting any requests for more troops," the Pentagon official said.To placate Rumsfeld, Abizaid has consistently said he has enough "assets" to carry out his assigned mission. Sources close to Abizaid said, however, that for months, he's wanted to expand that mission to seal off Iraq's borders.Currently, U.S. commanders don't have enough troops to stop the infiltration of foreign fighters into Iraq from Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia to bolster anti-American insurgents. In Baghdad last week, a bullish Abizaid said, "We are not headed for disaster as long as we are resolute, courageous and patient." But when asked about needing more troops, he also made clear "everything is on the table," including holding over some units set to rotate home and speeding up the arrival of replacement outfits.With Rumsfeld belatedly preparing to give Abizaid what heneeds, the Bush administration seems to have absorbed the new political reality: sending more troops to contain the upsurge in fighting may threaten Bush's electoral prospects less than bringing greater numbers of young Americans home in coffins.

What is the team Bush more interested in the safety of our troops and fighting the war as it should be fought or getting reelected? The call for more troops on the ground has been heard from many sources since before the invasion and stifled by little Caesar {Rumsfeld}. It is just one of the many mistakes made in Iraq since Bush uttered the immortal words Mission Accomplished.
Where else do you think The brain trust went wrong in it's planning and follow through?
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