Why do people deny evolution?

One's sinful nature is revealed by experiencing life both, physically and spiritually. Figuring out how to deal with sin is a team effort between you as a person and God. This is done through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. I think it looks a lot more enlightening and rewarding than a game of musical chairs. I think it is more like learning to run an efficient trucking business by hard work, innovative thinking and risk taking, and then having the perfect mechanic that is doing regular maintenance and mechanical improvements as your partner. ( A mechanic who in the end happens to be a closet millionaire that can totally rebuild the business if and when you really screw up bad.)



It takes hope and faith from your point of view. But, the other person on the team, (God the Father) knows exactly what you need to physically and spiritually experience to prepare you for that day when you can become one with Him in a spiritual "marriage type" relationship forever.

So, when one of the players (God) is the creator of the game and the rules, and gets to decide who wins , all everybody else (you and I included) has to do is play honestly.



Don't forget that the Holy Spirit communicates through your feelings and discomfort is a very motivating feeling. Listen to the song "Hurt" Johnny Cash covered that Nine Inch Nail song in an awesome music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc

because ID takes a viw upon lifes origins is wonerful and Im sure is being used as a comparative base of understanding. But thats still a big so what??
You always draw the origin of life into Darwin hen you know damned well what Darwin thwory is based upon and the three points of his theory. (non of which includes lifes origins <even he says so in his remarkable little book).

I think we all love to follow the research into the origins of life, I from a participatory craft and you as a spectator who only has one pov, ("that life's too complex to have arisen naturally").
Ive said a number of times that science, (if it could even figure out how to investigate ID) would love to because fame and fortune await those who do the discoveries most times. Since you acclaim your own expertise, where would you begin such an investigation to acquire evidence?? I must say that , with your added disclaimers about what ID actually does.(and these are statements from your past posts=
1The IDer has purposely laid out the path of lifes development so as to "fool" us into thinking that its all natural" REALLY?? the evidence for that has gotta be something Ive missed seeing

2Chemical linkages are "front loaded" by the IDer (paraphrased as to mean that which I originally stated that chemical linkages are relatively few and systematically the same time and time again and occur as a response to environmental and chemical conditions of "earths great lab"
3 Youve been beating something like molecular structure of the chemicals that contain life are actully algorithms that(apparently) "DIRECT" what the evolutionary outcome shall be .(When we have quite a bit of evidentiary information to see that the adaptive event actually occurs first and is not directinganything). I dont deny that the "chains of genes" do appear to have a tetradecimal presentation (so it wouldnt be called a bar code). But we see that commonly occur in the mineral kingdom through time. If Millerite and Boulangerite, and flourohydroxy apatite, and gazillions of others lay themselves out in tetradecimal and hexadecimal chains has there been a big bale of evidence to concern your mullahs about such linkages and structures being "industrially produced"


When the structure of the thermal gradient of earth, in the presence of several elements and H2O always produces moderately "evolving" chains of molecules as responses to their environments(ever since the earth began because for that we have strong evidence). Are they ID'd also?? Where does your "chain of logic" actually begin??
Youve never incorporated in your thought process how life today MAY be totally different than at its beginning. For that our evidence from the llab is becoming quite compelling (not conclusive but compelling). we may be left with several models of the kick off of life because, from the fossil record, it looks as if life had at least 4 false start ups in the first Billion years)
Where we differ is that youve already reached your conclusion without anything that approaches evidence (no matter your protestations).
You always give interesting POV's but nothing that even approaches well founded or compelling, mostly because its always based only upon incredulity, not anything logical (your above 3 running points Ive found to be "precious" , if it was coming from an 8 year old, and not someone who wishes to argue his worldview as a scientific hypothesis)

thats the start of a poem for a buncha "Philosophy f science dudes", not an abstract and introduction for a scienctific argument

These verses in Revelations were revealed to John as a vision. He is viewing this visual portrayal of the reconciliation of man from a universal, objective, God like point of view. This reconciliation started when the rider (Jesus) started riding. This the solution is introduced with this line in the bible.



That paragraph sums up the whole story of reconciliation bible. Revelations 20 is just the details describing some of what did happen as the words "I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

That "vision" is a vision of what mankind experienced over (my guess is anyway) something longer than 40 million years and probably less than 4 billion years. (I think that is the timeline bracketed by science and the bible). So, I think John did the best he could describing what he saw. Especially since he did not have our language of cosmology, inflation theory, or quantum mechanics, etc. . . that we developed over the last few thousand years.



That is because you thinketh correctly, my brother. In the scheme of things you are a second in the timeline and but a speck in a vast universe. But you are created in the image of a perfect and omnipotent God. This gives you (through your physical body) the ability to change the universe forever. And a little bit of imperfection makes a big deal in a vast universe intended for perfection. And your actions and the intentions behind those actions matter.



You are judged according to what you have done as recorded in the books. The books have physical accomplishments written in them but, it was what those physical accomplishments reveal about you spiritually as the Holy Spirit sifts through them and determines "why" you did them.

So the question is, "why did Jesus institute the Sacrifice of the mass at the Last supper and why did Jesus set up the Catholic Priesthood to bring that mass to each individual human being?"

Because the whole story of the bible is a story of an experience that takes place over millions of years and effects the whole universe. And, God wanted you to experience that "story" in the universe contained in your little body over your short lifespan so, you would know Him and His plan as you become His spouse (Which, happens both spiritually and physically in the Eucharist, just like a marriage between a man and woman.) and prepare to spend eternity with Him.

You cannot say the same thing. ID theory merely states that "the IDer did it." Evolution attempts to explain how the diversity of species occurred.

Getting back to what Leadfoot said earlier Id still like to repeat a comment on his "beliefs".
Truth is subjective garbage. Fact is evidence based. The fact is that ALL the evidence supports and NONE refutes. Bada bing. To say that proves nothing is, of course, not how our evidence based and functionality based engineering and science works. Its also how our courts work . PREPONDERANCE of evidence is good enough for civil action while "beyond any reasonable doubt" i the way criminal verdicts work.

We have some more news about whale evolution to slowly close th door on Creationist anti-science preaching. Its a story about Perepocetus pacificus. A proto whale that walked and swam like a big otter. Its a neat creature with features of land animals and of a developing "whaleness". It even has retained som of the features of the middle finger that was the original hoof -like foot . This critter lived during the Eocene ,and its fossil parts were dated at about 45 mya.
It all goes back to what Darwin himslf mused. It wont be for lack of examples of ancient creatures , it will be because geology hasnt allowed us to find fossils. Theres only one for now and maybe there wont be any more, but unlike the Creationist hoax with the Paluxey River man footprints, these are real and the excavation has been boringly documented using digital media.

EVOLVING WHALENESS

Fossils are fickle. They will sing any song u want to hear.
Cars and airplanes have similar traits. Some Whales and land mammals may too. Not convincing enough.
Did u spell that wrong? Cause I can’t find a pic of it.
Here is a whale transitional specie evolutionists preach, Pakicetus LOL. A100% land mammal.
https://answersingenesis.org/aquatic-animals/fossil-evidence-of-whale-evolution/
Bout half way down.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uJGairhrPGc

This ex-evolutionist scientist explains in a 4 part series why he doesn’t embrace an old earth worldview anymore.

yup, I misspelled again, its PEREFOCETUS PACIFICUS. If you would have clicked the link I posted , it ould have come up.

Fossils do give us information that provides only facts.

""Dr Mcmurtry" was functionally incorrect three times in the first few minutes of his talk. Ill listen later, I dont think Ill find anything thought provoking from someone who deliberately misrepresents what science says just to make a point.

I looked up his bio and he has no qualifications in any branch of science whatsoever. Its like me asking my accountant what he thinks about biochemistry.Youre easily impressed, I am not.

Yep. Another Pakicetus, coelacanth, Archaeopteryx etc. type of fossil.
Four legged ‘whale.’🤦🏼‍♂️
Fossils are Fickle huh?

try to keep from denying based on no technical knowlledge.
After all, youve had your brain removed by a Biblical Literature professor. Why not have heart surgery done by a baker?

You are apparently of th school that asserts that science should NOT be practiced by trained scientists.

There was not one post that addressed what I've said (on evolution or theology).

Nobody here even agrees about what I actually said ID is so it makes further comment useless. And that will of course set of a chorus of "Oh sure, just declare victory and go home, what a fraud" , "You haven't presented a single argument or piece of evidence.", etc. Gentlemen, just saying this **** don't make it true (back @ u farmer).

If anyone says anything relevant to what I actually said about their theories either biological or theological, I'll be around.

https://isgenesishistory.com/free-videos-is-genesis-history/

This link contains a video of A different interpretation from the conventional model (of millions of years)on the Grand Canyon, and those layers of Rock which cover most of the United States, and the world.

breathtaking inanity is the **** you post.
All the stuff these guys present i fraudulent .
IS GENESIS HISTORY?? no less than is astrology science??

as I said, "EVIDENCE DOESNT MAKE ANYTHING TRUE, BUT IT PROVIDES SUPPORT THAT HELPS PROVE IT IS FACT". Your truths are very subjective and dont require anything but your assertions and opinion. That wont make the pumps work.

You still are practicing yer passive aggressive style eh??


Youve been trying to split the relationships among chemistry, biochemistry, genetics, and evolution. WHY??

I looked in here and reaffirmed a decision made long ago that I would not again involve myself in an argument I've had 3 thousand times previously.

And that's a bit of a pity as I have an open schedule. Sunday is one of the seven days I've set aside to not go to church.

and I, the Plump bashing thread, except to , every so often, bash him myself.

We are cross-pollinating, you and I.

Perhaps this will lead to a brand new type of poster, Allah be willing.