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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
farmerman
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:10 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
"vegetarian lions?? So you guys look at a lions teeth tructures (I assume to quickly dispatch those wily asparagii), its c;aws, Its body build made form stalking and explosively charging those nasty quick running fruits and veggies eh?
You realize that you are denying ALL the foorensic evidence of the fossil record that seems to clearly show how carnivores and vegetarian developed by their structure and dentition.
Also, the unique features of peripheral v 3-D vision. (after all a plant wont run while a rabbit will).



I knew youd simply shrug off and deny the science involved in radioisotopic decay . I assume you dont believe that nuclear energy even works.

I told YOU that certain e-capture and beta decays can have their ecay constants varied very very slightly only by induced pressure. (Not enough to vary the time values Remember, decay constants are like 2.000 X 10 -11 . U238 is 4.468BY and U235 is 703.8 MMY (the ratios we see in supernovaes fit thoe ratios quite nicely. If you guys deny "calibration" you should really get back into your tents and plod about the desert. You havent done anything to exert any knowlege of science. Youve actually been handed a bunch of BS that makes a very big deal about a relatively small thing.

C14 (all 3 pathways) have been calibrated , corrected for atomic bomb fallout by concoria diagrams. Remember this, ONLY the CREATIONISTS have perped a fraud by taking doctored Stegosaur nd duckbill dinosaur fossils and submitted them to labs without ANY QUALITY CONTROL documentation. It later came out that all these samples were either "painted with fresh 1 pound cuts of shellac or vodka in order to eposit the teeniest amount of fresh C14 onto the samples. The C14 dates came out to be 20 to 40000 years old (FOR CRRETACEAOUS DINOSAURS)
First of all, science should not be involved in cheating and fraud. IF ANYBOSY does it , they should banished forever. Scaince has had a few Chinese fossils doctored to show false evolutionary data. And SCIENCE clened it up. Xcience also cleaned up the "FAKE C14 AMPLES" and the labs banned the samplers and the Creation "geologists" from any further submission priviledges. THIS is the kind of folks youre conjoined with, If you cant do good science, Dont pot crp bout that which you are only posting from some Ceationist blogs.
The Polonium birefringence that Austen preaches about is a total sham thats been debunked several times but amateur creation "scientists" arent educated enough to understand the BS he peppers his stuff with. Ill get my notes about Austens old "Polonium halos" BS . I have it at my lab and its snowing now and my lab is a fair walk across two fields.

BTW , Austen got himself invited to conduct a field trip of a series of rocks on the Grand Canyon in the Geological Society 2010 Conference in Denver. When he got his field trip members to the Supai he started preaching evidence about a "Biblical Flood".
So some grad students From Calgary U took the field trip party to see, (RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SAME FACIES DEPOSITS) was a huge sequence of sand dune deposits (hardly something a worldwide Flood would produce. A desert in the middle of a FLOOD
Yes your understanding is a bit choppy, I can see youve clipped much from AIG . Obviously youve gotta become more of a critical thinker ( Isnt that something the Creationist/IDers are claiming they do all along??)

coluber2001
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:31 pm
For some odd reason some people think of evolution as being contrary to and in conflict with religion. To me it's just the opposite. Evolution reinforces the glory that is nature, and this glory, to me, is the spirit of religion.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:37 pm
@farmerman,
Quickly while I am stopped, yes, there have been vegetarian lions in our lifetime we have got to observe.

Teeth?
Let me ask you, do you use a butter knife to cut open a watermelon?
I think it is reasonable to assume you use a big ‘ol knife 😉
See Where I’m going with that?
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:39 pm
@coluber2001,
Evolution is in conflict with the biblical teachings for example that God created everything vegetarian originally. Just as one example quickly, back to work! Sry
izzythepush
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:40 pm
@coluber2001,
Some people are just plain nuts. If you look at the evolution of man it's full of twists and turns, going from nocturnal to diurnal and regaining colour vision is pretty incredible in itself.

A lot more impressive than Ally Cabally Kazoop! Done.
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coluber2001
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 01:45 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Thinking that all knowledge must come from the Bible and must be in accord with the Bible is the credo of the Dark Ages the rejection of which led to the Renaissance.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 02:09 pm
@coluber2001,
My point still stands, they are not compatible. It is one or the other. No if‘s and‘s, or but’s.
Thanks for your most recent opinion, but you should explain why....
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 02:23 pm
@farmerman,
Quote: I knew youd simply shrug off and deny the science involved in radioisotopic decay . I assume you dont believe that nuclear energy even works.

That is one way to interpret it.
As I explained, I am busy at work and not retired like yourself. This again comes back to my point that those who search for truth will find it. There are so many Religions in the world including evolutionism, and millions of people like yourself which embrace such ideas, I do not have all the time in the world to go through every detail.

Also yes, I acknowledge nuclear energy works, just as airplanes work. But that is not we are discussing here.
What we are discussing are the assumptions at play with the speed of
radioactive decay, just as the speed of airplanes as you had mentioned.
Just as you assume that because we observe flesh eating in the world today, that in the distant past it must have been the same environment. .... despite the evidence which suggests they could have been vegetarian.
However, because of your religion you shut down and shut out such things.

What we do know is that the speeds of decay can be altered.
What we also know is that evolutionists are desperately reliant on believing that such speeds have always been consistent, like a plane on cruise control to support their religious position.




farmerman
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 02:48 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Quote:
you assume that because we observe flesh eating in the world today, that in the distant past it must have been the same environment. .... despite the evidence which suggests they could have been vegetarian.
Most of your argument are made by ignoring your opponent. WHAT EVIDENCE CAN YOU PROVIDE US THAT SAYS LIONS (or any felids) WERE VEGETARIAN??
Im really interested in how you spin this.


Quote:
What we do know is that the speeds of decay can be altered
only two rl decay chains constants (AGAIN you ignore what just been told you) can be altered by pressure. Labd work (WE DO check things before announcing their validity) has shown the minor amount that a constant can be changed (to the extent that it hs no measurable impact on the half lives and rad age of a sample).
We DO do, multiple sampling addition of blanks and insrtion of known standards to compare.
(Something the fraudulent Creation "Scientists" did nOT do when they submitted their own fossils.



Your realy not interested in discussing science, youre just tryig to disprove a number of methods .

When are you guys going to do some actual honest work to PROVE what you say??

Quoting your Bible is just not good enough for me, if what you believe is a fact as you assert , it oughta be demonstrable no? Otherwise its just an additional tale of the desrt people. Its mooga Booga.


Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 03:03 pm
@farmerman,
Again, I cannot spoonfeed everyone The evidence, you need to seek it out yourself, just Google it......Vegetarian lien is all you need to type in, And read up

farmerman
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 03:03 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Quote:
I am busy at work and notSEMI retired like yourself. This again comes back to my point that those who search for truth will find it.

I pprobably do more geologic work in 15 minutes of a day than you do all year. Im not a hobbyist "religionist". Im an In the field and lab license professional geo chemist with active client contracts. You do anything similar besides look up crap on Wikipesia. Im not quoting anything to you, its all my past work and present work based.



PS, I forgot the Polonium "halos" stuff, I was talking to a colleague over at a small college in mid NJ and he stated that recent close ezaminations of Gentry and Austen's sampling of the phlogopite and biotite that resulted in the "POLONIUM HALO" pronouncement is considered BS. because Gentry and Austen NEVER even produced any evidence that the "HAlos" were caused by rad decay of Polonium 9which is a teeny aspct in anatectic granites like theirs. In otherwords, Gentry ( who did the actaul sampling never considered that the halos (birefringence patterns) rent the result of longer lived isotopes like U 238 or Th 232)

Wow, talk about OOPS. Its like posting some numbers for oxidation rates by Oxygen when the substance was actually involved with Cl.
OldGrumpy
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 03:22 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
I pprobably do more geologic work in 15 minutes of a day than you do all year.


Your arrogance and stupidity has reached extremely high levels, fm.
Don't you really see it yourself?
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Leadfoot
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 04:38 pm
@rosborne979,
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A Delusion is an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument.

Do I really need to point out how irrelevant "what is generally accepted" is in science?

All you have to support Evolution is exactly that. And it means no more than the 'generally accepted static universe' did in its day. It wasn't science then and it isn't now.
farmerman
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 04:40 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Quote:
Let me ask you, do you use a butter knife to cut open a watermelon?


Were talking about evidence that convinces you that lions were vegetarians. Comon , stop evading the issue.

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farmerman
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 04:45 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Quote:
Again, I cannot spoonfeed everyone The evidence, you need to seek it out yourself, just Google it......Vegetarian lien is all you need to type in, And read up
So you have nothing eh? I thought as much. I was just looking for some entertainment.

PS, I can find things in Google that say the moon is made of cream cheese, or "Theres the ruins of an ARK on the flanks of Mt Ararat"
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Setanta
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 06:57 pm
Is a vegetarian lien what you get in family court to make your vegan neighbors leave you the hell alone?
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coluber2001
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 08:13 pm
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farmerman
 
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Fri 1 Mar, 2019 09:03 pm
@coluber2001,
Hey, I thought this damn thing was in cubits
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rosborne979
 
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Sat 2 Mar, 2019 07:04 am
@Leadfoot,
Leadfoot wrote:

Quote:
A Delusion is an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument.

Do I really need to point out how irrelevant "what is generally accepted" is in science?

All you have to support Evolution is exactly that. And it means no more than the 'generally accepted static universe' did in its day. It wasn't science then and it isn't now.

Wow. You just ignore context completely don’t you.
Leadfoot
 
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Sat 2 Mar, 2019 07:31 am
@rosborne979,
Quote:
Wow. You just ignore context completely don’t you.

Read the Subject of the thread. Who is ignoring context?

'Evolution' and its supporters make pretentions to science while at the same time being profoundly unscientific.
 

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