@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:. . . The best that reason, logic, and science can do is to show that we do not know if there are gods or not.
Scientific knowledge is acquired by degrees of possibility, proability, and certainty.
Reason and logic, on the other hand, are generally attempts to arrive at certainty. Using plane geometry as an example, the Pythagorean theorem works out the same every time. It gets dicier in solid geometry, trigonometry, and calculus, perhaps because it becomes increasingly difficult to visualize. Still, the basic math used in the science to build our homes and roads has served us well for centuries.
We try to begin with falsifiable hypotheses. It's easier in the basic physical sciences. More difficult when we study the genome. But, if we start with agreed upon hypotheses (axioms) logical propositions and accepted