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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 03:37 pm
@FBM,
Yup, believe in god, and throw away your common sense, logic, and ability to think on your own.

It's really comical; 6,000 year old earth. These guys are brain dead.
FBM
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 03:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
At the very least, caught up in this: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-certainty-bias/
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 06:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
No, intelligent design does not involve God, as all that is needed is an intelligent designer. Say what, all we need to do is take any type of bacteria or photosynthetic organisms to the Mars base, that will be built, find out which ones can live on Mars, and introduce them to Mars, then the intelligent designer is humanity. No reason to assume that this could not have happened in the past, there is also no scientific or mathematical model that will allow for hundreds of thousands of lines of chemical code and a helixical matrix that will hold them all in a perfectly specific order to form in a warm pond. This can only happen in the minds of the silly. So tell us again how "it just happened in a warm pond one day Daddy"....
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 06:33 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank, again, you can not argue with me on substance. Not one thing that I have mentioned has been shown to be false, go ahead, make my day.

"it just happened in a warm pond one day Daddy"

Very scientific indeed.

You are the one doing the quote by quote, I really wish you could say something of substance, however in your little world, science and mathematical models have no meaning.

FBM
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 06:35 pm
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/1150353_1015618285120289_5947343366330361103_n.jpg
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 06:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That was not a question, but you can answer the question as to how hundreds of thousands of lines of chemical code, and the matrix that holds them in perfect order, "just formed in a pond one day Daddy"

It's irrational, illogical, scientifically ignorant, and mathematically impossible, except to those who have Faith in the religion of evolution, and pray to the pagan God called Darwin.
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FBM
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 06:45 pm
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:02 pm
@FBM,
I never once mentioned Jesus, does this bother you? or are you bothered because, you know that science and mathematics, both forbid the formation of hundreds of thousands of lines of chemical computer code, and a helixical hard drive matrix, forming one day at random in a warm pond......

Belief in this is not scientific, and can only be accomplished by faith in the religion of evolution
FBM
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:08 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Right. I know. "Goddidit" is easier than studying. Laughing
Frank Apisa
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:26 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
DNA Thumbs drive wrote:

Frank, again, you can not argue with me on substance.


I am arguing with you on substance. You made some assertions...and I argue that in some cases you are just guessing...and in others, you are wrong.



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Not one thing that I have mentioned has been shown to be false, go ahead, make my day.


Okay...you asserted that "nobody can argue with you."

That is wrong. I can...and am arguing with you.

Boy, that was easy. Got any hard ones?




Quote:
"it just happened in a warm pond one day Daddy"

Very scientific indeed.


Huh??? Did you fall off?

Quote:
You are the one doing the quote by quote, I really wish you could say something of substance, however in your little world, science and mathematical models have no meaning.


You must have me mistaken for someone else. Try to keep up.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:38 pm
@Frank Apisa,
So you have substantive scientific and mathematical evidence to present, if so we are still waiting for it, instead of your completely absent of substance attempt at an argument.

Show us how hundreds of thousands, of lines of chemical code, and their helixical matrix, that are needed for all life, could have formed in a warm pond, that had no life, and present this in a way, that is not forbidden by all scientific and mathematical laws.....

Go now.

Wow, that was really unimpressive, care to try again? Do you need help keeping up?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:41 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
You,
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religion of evolution.
A simple minded way to include your religion into a concept that has absolutely nothing to do with 'religion.'
You're too transparent.

LMAO

It's obvious you have no concept of what "evolution" is.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Your entire idea of spontaneous generation, is based upon the faith, that this will be discovered to be reality someday, even though all scientific and mathematical laws, forbid spontaneous generation of hundreds of thousands of lines of chemical code in a warm pond.

It's a silly idea, unless one has the faith that you do in the religion of evolution.
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FBM
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:55 pm
Quote:
MISCONCEPTION: Evolution is itself religious, so requiring teachers to teach evolution violates the first amendment.

CORRECTION: This fallacious argument is based on the idea that evolution and religion are fundamentally the same since they are both "belief systems." This idea is simply incorrect. Belief in religious ideas is based on faith, and religion deals with topics beyond the realm of the natural world. Acceptance of scientific ideas (like evolution) is based on evidence from the natural world, and science is limited to studying the phenomena and processes of the natural world. Supreme Court and other Federal court decisions clearly differentiate science from religion and do not permit the advocacy of religious doctrine in science (or other public school) classes. Other decisions specifically uphold a school district's right to require the teaching of evolution. For additional information on significant court decisions involving evolution education, visit the NCSE website. To learn more about the difference between science and religion, visit the Understanding Science website.


http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_faq.php#i2
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:57 pm
@FBM,
Believing that life "just happened in a warm pond Daddy" can not exist in a human, unless the human has faith in the idea, because the idea violates all scientific and mathematical laws.....
FBM
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:05 pm
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

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15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense
Opponents of evolution want to make a place for creationism by tearing down real science, but their arguments don't hold up

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7. Evolution cannot explain how life first appeared on earth.
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The origin of life remains very much a mystery, but biochemists have learned about how primitive nucleic acids, amino acids and other building blocks of life could have formed and organized themselves into self-replicating, self-sustaining units, laying the foundation for cellular biochemistry. Astrochemical analyses hint that quantities of these compounds might have originated in space and fallen to earth in comets, a scenario that may solve the problem of how those constituents arose under the conditions that prevailed when our planet was young.

Creationists sometimes try to invalidate all of evolution by pointing to science's current inability to explain the origin of life. But even if life on earth turned out to have a nonevolutionary origin (for instance, if aliens introduced the first cells billions of years ago), evolution since then would be robustly confirmed by countless microevolutionary and macroevolutionary studies.

8. Mathematically, it is inconceivable that anything as complex as a protein, let alone a living cell or a human, could spring up by chance.
Chance plays a part in evolution (for example, in the random mutations that can give rise to new traits), but evolution does not depend on chance to create organisms, proteins or other entities. Quite the opposite: natural selection, the principal known mechanism of evolution, harnesses nonrandom change by preserving "desirable" (adaptive) features and eliminating "undesirable" (nonadaptive) ones. As long as the forces of selection stay constant, natural selection can push evolution in one direction and produce sophisticated structures in surprisingly short times.

As an analogy, consider the 13-letter sequence "TOBEORNOTTOBE." Those hypothetical million monkeys, each pecking out one phrase a second, could take as long as 78,800 years to find it among the 2613 sequences of that length. But in the 1980s Richard Hardison of Glendale College wrote a computer program that generated phrases randomly while preserving the positions of individual letters that happened to be correctly placed (in effect, selecting for phrases more like Hamlet's). On average, the program re-created the phrase in just 336 iterations, less than 90 seconds. Even more amazing, it could reconstruct Shakespeare's entire play in just four and a half days.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:10 pm
@FBM,
Just one answer, to how "life just formed in a warm pond Daddy" would suffice.

One answer that is not condemned by all science and mathematical laws that is....
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:13 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
It's not about faith. It's about the fact that science has shown that humans are the descendants of primates.

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It confirms that humans are primates and that modern humans and chimpanzees diverged from a common ancestor between 8 and 6 million years ago. There is only about a 1.2 percent genetic difference between modern humans and chimpanzees throughout much of their genetic code.


This 'fact' blows away the fact that this planet is only 6000 years old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Ah, hello........ humans are primates, so there goes that grand attempt at rational thought.

In addition to the great apes, the family Hominidae includes our species, Homo sapiens.

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FBM
 
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Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:37 pm
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