RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 08:28 am
Pope Francis: Powerful People Don’t Want Peace Because They Profit from War
http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2015/05/pope-francis-powerful-people-dont-want-peace-because-they-profit-from-war/
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 12:58 pm
Quote:
Vatican to Recognize Palestinian State in New Treaty
By JODI RUDOREN and DIAA HADIDMAY 13, 2015

JERUSALEM — The Vatican announced Wednesday that it would soon sign a treaty that includes recognition of the “state of Palestine,” lending significant symbolic weight to an intensifying Palestinian push for international support for sovereignty that bypasses the paralyzed negotiations with Israel.

Palestinian leaders celebrated the Holy See’s endorsement as particularly important, given the international stature of Pope Francis. For Israelis, it was an emotional blow, since Francis has deep relationships with Jews dating back decades, and Christians are critical backers of their enterprise.

“The Vatican is not just a state. The Vatican represents hundreds of millions of Christians worldwide, including Palestinians, and has vast moral significance,” said Husam Zomlot, a senior Palestinian foreign-affairs official.

Israel’s Foreign Ministry said it was “disappointed” by the Vatican’s decision, and that the recognition would “not advance the peace process.” That echoed similar statements after a wave of European Parliamentary resolutions on Palestinian statehood last fall, but some Israeli analysts said the Vatican’s step hurt more.

“Even this philo-Semitic pope, this pope who cares about the Jews, even he doesn’t get it,” said David Horovitz, editor of The Times of Israel news site.


Maybe he gets it but you don't, Dave...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 01:26 pm
@Olivier5,
Dave's not here.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 01:29 pm
@izzythepush,
And his name is Rodney.

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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 01:29 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
“Even this philo-Semitic pope, this pope who cares about the Jews, even he doesn’t get it,” said David Horovitz, editor of The Times of Israel news site.


Maybe he gets it but you don't, Dave...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 01:31 pm
@Olivier5,
Well, some of us on a2k are glad, even if Dave H. isn't, while typing in Israel.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2015 05:56 pm
@ossobuco,
Interesting to see the Israeli govt getting nervous about what remain purely symbolic gestures. Stalin was more blunt: "The Pope? Hom many divisions has he got?"
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2015 02:33 am
Pope Francis definitely is a good egg.

Quote:
The hippos, kangaroos and penguins adorning the cover of Piccolo Uovo (Little Egg) give little hint of the political and religious storm the children’s book has caused. While following the adventures of an egg may seem harmless enough, its discovery of different family types – including same sex – has prompted a backlash by conservatives who accuse Italian author Francesca Pardi of promoting a pro-homosexuality gender theory.

In the book, the egg encounters a pair of gay penguins, lesbian rabbits successfully bringing up a family, as well as other family models, including a single parent hippo, a mixed race dog couple, and kangaroos that have adopted polar bear cubs.

The book, however, was met with disapproval by Venice’s new mayor, Luigi Brugnaro, who in June banned Piccolo Uovo and about 50 other titles from schools. The decision led more than 250 Italian authors to demand their own books be removed from the city’s shelves, a move one writer described as a “protest against an appalling gesture of censorship and ignorance”.

Now Pardi has found an unlikely supporter in Pope Francis, who through his staff has written to the author praising her work. “His holiness is grateful for the thoughtful gesture and for the feelings which it evoked, hoping for an always more fruitful activity in the service of young generations and the spread of genuine human and Christian values,” wrote Peter B Wells, a senior official at the Vatican secretariat of state.


The letter, dated 9 July and recently seen by the Guardian, was a response to a parcel of children’s books sent by Pardi to the pontiff in June. The collection from her publisher, Lo Stampatello, including seven or eight books which deal with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues (LGBT), was accompanied by a heartfelt letter from the author describing the attacks she has come under in recent months.

Many parishes across the country are in this period sullying our name and telling falsehoods about our work which deeply offends us,” she wrote. “We have respect for Catholics ... A lot of Catholics give back the same respect, why can’t we have the whole hierarchy of the church behind us?”

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f07993d053f43bdc705d88525599b3290ca38d1b/60_291_797_478/master/797.jpg?w=620&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=8b151725687ae33ff102369e1851af9d

Pardi said she had not expected a reply and was surprised to receive the letter at her Milan home. “It’s not that I think that he’s for gay families, because there’s the Catholic doctrine, but we mustn’t think that we don’t have rights,” she said.

The Vatican said the closing blessing of the private letter was addressed to Pardi and not in support of teachings which went against church doctrine on ‘gender theory’.

The Vatican deems homosexual relationships “intrinsically disordered” and “contrary to natural law”, preaching that gay people must live a life of chastity in order to be good Catholics. While such a doctrine has effectively excluded people in same-sex relationships from the church, Pope Francis has adopted a more welcoming approach during his papacy.

“If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?” he said in 2013. The same year, a gay man in France told his local newspaper he had received a reassuring phone call from the pope – a claim the Vatican denied.

The pope’s more inclusive approach has been countered by those within the Vatican. Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican’s secretary of state, said Ireland’s decision to legalise gay marriage in May was a “defeat for humanity”.

Despite the pope’s praise of Pardi’s work, a significant shift in the Vatican’s view of gay relationships is unlikely. The pontiff will next month head to the World Meeting of Families, gathering Catholics from across the globe in Philadelphia in the US, but LGBT groups have not been invited to air their views.
Catholics worldwide have started campaigning against the pope’s openness, with more than half a million signing a petition calling on Francis to reaffirm church teachings on gay people and divorcees.

Signatories of the Filial appeal aim to have an impact on the Vatican’s synod on the family in October, when church teachings will be discussed by the world’s leading churchmen. The petition has notably been signed by traditionalist Cardinal Raymond Burke, who was demoted by the pope last year.

Catholicism has a strong influence on Italian society, and Pardi’s letter to the pope also took aim at the country’s “we defend our children” committee, which in June brought hundreds of thousands of people to Rome to protest against gay parenting.

But attitudes in Italy are changing, with recent polls showing the majority of voters are in favour of giving rights to gay couples. Pardi is herself in a same-sex relationship with her business partner, Maria Silvia Fiengo, but the pair had to travel to Spain to be legally married. Granted no legal rights to have a family in Italy, they had their four children in the Netherlands.

Although gay marriage and adoption are off the government agenda, Italy’s prime minister, Matteo Renzi, has pledged to legislate for same-sex unions this year. He has come under growing pressure to fulfil the promise following a decision by the European court of human rights, which ruled that Italy failed to protect same-sex couples.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/28/pope-francis-sends-letter-praising-gay-childrens-book
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 30 Aug, 2015 05:48 am
http://www.worldwidehippies.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/38598_lenhador_the_pope_smokes_dope.jpeg



RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 9 Sep, 2015 05:03 pm
@Setanta,
No wonder why he is so cool! Smile
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Miller
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2015 12:23 pm
Why is't Pope Frank coming to Boston? Laughing
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2015 01:06 pm
The Elite Media has so far been mostly ignoring the visit. Is this because they have some idea that America mostly does not care this time?

Very strange stuff considering the guy is the most liberal Pope we have had for awhile. I am wondering if this is a further sign that we are becoming a post Christian nation.
Miller
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2015 07:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
Looks like we're winning the "popularity" comtest! Drunk
hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2015 07:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

The Elite Media has so far been mostly ignoring the visit. Is this because they have some idea that America mostly does not care this time?

Very strange stuff considering the guy is the most liberal Pope we have had for awhile. I am wondering if this is a further sign that we are becoming a post Christian nation.

This is a -2 post? In what universe? There a few too many really stupid people around here. I wish they would leave, they are an embarrassment.
Miller
 
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Reply Sat 19 Sep, 2015 08:07 pm
@Miller,
I have a -3, because the "kids" have gone to bed.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 20 Sep, 2015 08:57 pm
Quote:
The Pope’s visit later this week isn’t turning out to be the big payday that hotel owners had hoped for.

A quarter of Philadelphia’s 11,200 hotel rooms are still vacant during the Pope’s visit there, according to Delaware Online. Hotel operators there have been cutting prices, forgoing minimum stay requirements, and offering extras like subway tokens and even Philadelphia-themed snacks, the New York Times reports.

Philadelphia is expecting 1 million people to attend the Festival and Families and 1.5 million people to attend the Papal Mass, according to Philly.com. However, hotel vacancies could be a sign that those predictions are off.

http://fortune.com/2015/09/20/pope-visit-hotel/

It seems that between pissing off the conservatives and marketing himself as the regular guy Pope there is not a lot of interest in seeing the guy.
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 22 Sep, 2015 08:50 am
Do you remember the time, when a Pope visited Boston and the audience was smoking POT to high Heaven on the Commons?
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 22 Sep, 2015 09:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

hawkeye10 wrote:

The Elite Media has so far been mostly ignoring the visit. Is this because they have some idea that America mostly does not care this time?

Very strange stuff considering the guy is the most liberal Pope we have had for awhile. I am wondering if this is a further sign that we are becoming a post Christian nation.

This is a -2 post? In what universe? There a few too many really stupid people around here. I wish they would leave, they are an embarrassment.

You first, you dumb ass.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 22 Sep, 2015 09:21 pm
@Miller,
Miller wrote:

Why is't Pope Frank coming to Boston? Laughing


Because he's trying to snub you......are you nuts, the Rolling Stones don't hit every city in the US....and you wonder why the Pope can't hit every State? The Vatican and the head of the Holy Roman Church is in Rome, has been for centuries. Who leads the Christian Church you follow, Queen Elisabeth? Or possibly you are a Mormon or Seventh Day Adventist, if you are not a Catholic why do you give a good goddamn. Drunk
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 23 Sep, 2015 03:01 am
Just saw this in another forum. Borrowed it, because I think it is a fit here:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/attachments/religion-and-politics/67190506d1442969615-pope-vs-gop-pope-right-jpg
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