Reply Wed 4 Dec, 2013 11:41 am
The conservative crusade to declare everything a person --corporations, fertilized eggs, and other things -- will have disastrous consequences.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/12/hobby_lobby_and_corporate_personhood_the_alarming_conservative_crusade_to.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr:content
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 4 Dec, 2013 12:26 pm
@Advocate,
If a business can prove they have run their business according to their religious preference since the beginning of the business then I have no problems with them seeking this type of protection from the govt. On the other hand if they can't prove that they have run their business according to their religious beliefs since the beginning of that business then they should have no right to seek such protections.
Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 4 Dec, 2013 04:47 pm
@Baldimo,
Where does it say that a corps past practices make it okay to violate the constitution?
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 12:21 pm
@Advocate,
How are they violating the constitution? Separation of church and state?
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 02:02 pm
@Baldimo,
They do that indirectly when they demand that corporations get to be treated as persons under the first amendment.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 03:25 pm
@Advocate,
So it isn't a violation of the Constitution. As long as the govt makes laws that effect business, then business should have a way of speaking out against the laws and govt. Small businesses are sometime nothing more then a few people, they are not all mega-corps.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 03:25 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
They do that indirectly when they demand that corporations
get to be treated as persons under the first amendment.
IF u can prove that the Authors of the Constitution accepted your point of vu,
THEN u might have a viable argument.

Do u intend to give it a shot ??
i.e., do u have confidence in your stated position ?





David
Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 03:37 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Of course the B of R only applies to the government. That is why I used the term "indirectly."
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 03:50 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
Of course the B of R only applies to the government.
That is why I used the term "indirectly."

When u said:
". . . corporations get to be treated as persons
under the first amendment" that sounded pretty direct.

Now u say that u meant by the citizens personally and individually,
not qua action by government ?





David
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