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The Munich Agreement was a settlement permitting Nazi Germany's annexation of portions of Czechoslovakia along the country's borders mainly inhabited by German speakers, for which a new territorial designation "Sudetenland" was coined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement
What happened very shortly afterwards? Our new deal with Iran right now is the modern equivalent to this. France and England did all they could do to stop the war.

As we know Hitler had other ideas and so does Iran. They lie. They have been caught lying. They are Islamists and obligated to an eternal war. I guess we could see if there is anything else they wish, it can't hurt anymore than bomb they will use as soon as they can.

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What is going deleting posts? Is this a free speech forum or not?

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Please do not tell me you(this forum) do not have the guts to talk about Islam.

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Well, those nations in the middle east that think that Iran having nuclear weapons would be an existential threat might just circle the wagons (aka, mutual defense treaties)? So, this might not be a prelude to what occurred prior to WWII, but a prelude to what occurred prior to WWI?

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

What is going deleting posts? Is this a free speech forum or not?

If your post was an exact duplicate of a previous post, the hamsters might have devoured it.

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@coldjoint,

coldjoint wrote:

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The Munich Agreement was a settlement permitting Nazi Germany's annexation of portions of Czechoslovakia along the country's borders mainly inhabited by German speakers, for which a new territorial designation "Sudetenland" was coined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement
What happened very shortly afterwards? Our new deal with Iran right now is the modern equivalent to this. France and England did all they could do to stop the war.

As we know Hitler had other ideas and so does Iran. They lie. They have been caught lying. They are Islamists and obligated to an eternal war. I guess we could see if there is anything else they wish, it can't hurt anymore than bomb they will use as soon as they can.

If this deal with Iran falls through, they will face NATO bombardment of their illegal nuclear program.

And if for some reason NATO refused to bomb (very little chance of such a refusal), Israel would do it themselves.

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@Foofie,

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Well, those nations in the middle east that think that Iran having nuclear weapons would be an existential threat might just circle the wagons (aka, mutual defense treaties)? So, this might not be a prelude to what occurred prior to WWII, but a prelude to what occurred prior to WWI?

It is unlikely that Iran will be allowed to make a nuclear bomb. It is virtually certain that NATO will bomb them first. And if NATO somehow refuses, it is virtually certain that Israel will do it.

But if Iran did somehow manage to avoid being bombed and acquired nuclear weapons, the next step would be to see if the world (including Russia and China) wished to preserve the NPT. If they do, Iran will be crushed by overwhelming sanctions until they give up their nukes.

If the NPT is abandoned, then the US will be free to transfer nuclear weapons technology to our allies. Various countries neighboring Russia and China would likely be very interested in possessing American-designed thermonuclear warheads. Poland and Georgia, for instance. Also South Korea, Japan, the Philippines, and Australia.

I suspect that when they consider the consequences of the NPT failing, Russia and China will decide to sacrifice Iran.

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@oralloy,

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If this deal with Iran falls through, they will face NATO bombardment of their illegal nuclear program.

And if for some reason NATO refused to bomb (very little chance of such a refusal), Israel would do it themselves.

If falling through means a nuclear bomb going off in Israel, or for that matter anywhere, means the end. If you have been paying attention Iranian leaders are twelvers.

The coming of the 12th Iman comes after the world or at least most of it is destroyed. And Islam has proven themselves liars all though history. And do not think this is not a sacred duty to them.

What is sad is that it is avoidable.

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@coldjoint,

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They are Islamists and obligated to an eternal war.

Your math, among other things, is really screwy, coldplay. It isn't the Iranians who "[O]ver 200 times we [the USA] have put our forces into other countries to force them to our will. We've been in the business of being a country for about 200 years. We've spent fifty years at war," ... .

- John Stockwell

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@coldjoint,

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They lie. They have been caught lying

By 'they', you, of course, mean the US.

Nobody does lying better than the evil US of A.

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@JTT,

You are an idiot if you do not consider unbalanced Islamists are a threat.

And this thread is not about bashing the USA. Start your own thread.

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@coldjoint,

Hmmmm ColdJoint

This thread IS about bashing the USA. The title of the thread is "Appeasment" and it is clearly intended to criticize the actions of the US toward Iran.

Any way the USA has a Muslim population, a Constitution that protects the rights of this Muslim population and a large number of non-Muslim citizens who oppose hate-filled bigots attacking the Muslim population.

Cold Joint, you seem to do your share USA bashing.

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@maxdancona,

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hate-filled bigots attacking the Muslim

What are these, if not hate filled bigots?

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Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace "Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

2013.11.26 (Somariyeh, Syria) - A Shahid suicide bomber detonates a bus stop, taking fifteen souls with him.
2013.11.25 (Karachi, Pakistan) - A man and his wife are murdered merely for being Shia.
2013.11.25 (Baghdad, Iraq) - A vicious double-bombing at a cafe snuffs out the lives of twenty-three patrons and first responders.
2013.11.24 (Kuka, Nigeria) - Five residents of a Christian village are shot dead by Muslim terrorists.
2013.11.24 (Mosul, Iraq) - A Christian journalist is gunned down in a targeted attack.
2013.11.23 (Karachi, Pakistan) - Sectarian rivals shoot at three seminary students, killing one.

* Sources for individual incidents can be provided upon request.
LINE

Wake up, bigots hate for no reason. The enmity so richly deserved by Islam has countless valid reasons. I know all you got is bigot. But this problem is not as simple as you.

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@coldjoint,

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If falling through means a nuclear bomb going off in Israel, or for that matter anywhere, means the end.

"Falling through" only means they are not abiding by the deal.

NATO will bomb and destroy their nuclear facilities before they manage to develop nuclear weapons. And if for some inexplicable reason NATO doesn't, Israel will.

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@coldjoint,

Of course those are hate-filled bigots. That is the point ColdJoint.

You have a lot in common with them. You scoff at people who you see as moderates for looking for common understanding, just as they do. You believe that God should be considered in social policy, just as they do. You have an obsession with stamping out ethnic groups that you see as enemies.

There is a lot in common between you and the Islamic terrorists. I think that is why you are so obsessive about this issue.

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@maxdancona,

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Of course those are hate-filled bigots. That is the point ColdJoint.

Tell that to families of the dead Christians or the girls gang raped in the third world and all through Europe.

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@LvB,

It appears that this LvB character is behind some of the hostile tags added to the page:
http://able2know.org/user/lvb/

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@maxdancona,

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Of course those are hate-filled bigots. That is the point ColdJoint.

You have a lot in common with them. You scoff at people who you see as moderates for looking for common understanding, just as they do. You believe that God should be considered in social policy, just as they do. You have an obsession with stamping out ethnic groups that you see as enemies.

There is a lot in common between you and the Islamic terrorists. I think that is why you are so obsessive about this issue.

Really?

Please share with us how you know coldjoint is someone who kills people to advance his political agenda.

You could have made a comparison between coldjoint and Islamic fundamentalist but you chose to compare him to terrorists.

Sloppy rhetoric?

I would not be surprised if this was the case, but the alternative interpretation is that you intended to compare him to terrorists because you thought the comparison to be apt. If this is so, you really should provide a whole lot more substantiation, or find yourself, justly, accused of vile calumny.

Throwing off these ridiculous charges shouldn't advance your arguments, but, incredibly, with the max-like minded they do.

BTW - Where did you come up with the notion that coldjoint wants to "stamp out" ethnic groups?

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@oralloy,

Cool!

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