coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 27 Nov, 2013 09:09 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
These problems combine, which results in Liberals justifying the slaughter of innocent Americans by Muslims.


Not really. They refuse to discuss that. The fact that they only have" it is not all of them". Or the ridiculous theory it is not Islam, we don't understand. It seems there are enough terrorists to pop up in any country these days.

Now someone tell me is hard to understand about Islam and Sharia. Or tell me why in Africa Islam kills at will. That is Islam and that is to enforce Sharia.

That their own holy scripture encourages anything that advances Islam in anyway. Any translation or interpretation makes that clear many times. And their holy literature is political, not spiritual.
maxdancona
 
  3  
Wed 27 Nov, 2013 09:38 pm
@coldjoint,
Hey ColdJoint, that thumbs up is from me. You are doing more to support my position than I could ever ask for. I thank God for people like you.

[Africa Islam... snicker snicker]

maxdancona
 
  2  
Wed 27 Nov, 2013 09:42 pm
@coldjoint,
I am still wondering if there is any point at which Finn will say enough. If this doesn't do it, I don't know what will.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 27 Nov, 2013 09:44 pm
@maxdancona,
Quote:
[Africa Islam... snicker snicker]


African, Islam.
Quote:
2013.11.24 (Kuka, Nigeria) - Five residents of a Christian village are shot dead by Muslim terrorists.


Happens every day, all day. And not just in Nigeria.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 27 Nov, 2013 10:06 pm
Quote:
Only the American people can stop the unfolding disaster of the agreement with Iran, and only by the means Churchill recommended to his countrymen: with “a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigor, we arise again and take our stand for freedom as in the olden time.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-thornton/obamas-munich/
Quote:

Obama’s Munich
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Wed 27 Nov, 2013 10:21 pm
Quote:
According to Secretary of State John Kerry, the United States enters into negotiations with Iran "with eyes absolutely wide open. We have no illusions." The historical precedents and political prudence would tell us otherwise. Here are just a few examples:

Illusion #1. Just as Iran was about to sink into chaos, the United States and its European allies offered her a helping hand. Kerry insists that if Iran violates the agreement it can be reversed and sanctions could be re-applied. The folly of this argument is that nothing in this world is more permanent than something temporary. The administration will never recognize its failure, and Obama supporters will insist on further softening the sanctions in order to provide Iran with more incentive to comply. Just as with Hitler in the 1930s, the slippery slope of appeasement will prove to be irreversible and will continue until the sanction regime crumbles or Iran obtains a nuclear bomb, whichever comes first.


Illusion #2. In Geneva, Kerry said of the agreement, "It will make our ally Israel safer." Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister of Israel, does not share Mr. Kerry's Chamberlain-ish optimism. Netanyahu called the agreement "a historic mistake." What can John Kerry, an amateur in international diplomacy, and his boss possibly know that Benjamin Netanyahu, a highly experienced politician and a recognized expert on Middle East relations, does not? Kerry also said, "It will make our partners in the region safer." It is not clear which of the U.S. partners in the Middle East he is referring to. Netanyahu is not alone in criticizing the agreement; the Saudis do not like it, the Jordanians do not like it, and who does??? The Iranians and Syrians do, not surprisingly.


Illusion #3. Kerry said, "Put to the test what Iran's real intentions are." It seems he and the president are the only two people in the world who do not know what Iran's intentions are. Iran has been the chief world troublemaker for the last 30 years. If these two detached-from-reality peacemakers do not believe the Israelis, Saudis and Jordanians, the

Iranians leave no doubts about their intentions. Iranian Supreme Leader Khamenei attacked the United States, France and Israel, saying that "Zionist officials cannot be called humans, they are like animals," that "the Israeli regime is doomed to failure and annihilation," that the "Zionist regime" is the "rabid dog of the region." John Kerry, who suppressed his Jewishness, can afford to be dismissive but the Israelis no doubt remember Adolf Hitler's, "The Jews are definitely a race, but they are not human."

Realizing the weakness of his arguments, Kerry is desperately asking, "What is the alternative?" In doing so he is acknowledging that the administration is weak and has no stomach for stopping Iran from achieving its ultimate objective.


http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/iran-complete-and-unmitigated-surrender
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 28 Nov, 2013 08:12 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
they only have "it is not all of them". Or the ridiculous theory it is not Islam, we don't understand.

When Liberals babble such nonsense, I consider it an attempt to justify the slaughter of innocent Americans.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Thu 28 Nov, 2013 08:13 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
You are doing more to support my position than I could ever ask for. I thank God for people like you.

When people point out facts that you dislike, that does not count as supporting your position.


maxdancona wrote:
[Africa Islam... snicker snicker]

Were you unaware that there are Muslims in Africa?
coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 28 Nov, 2013 01:55 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
When people point out facts that you dislike, that does not count as supporting your position.


Shocked
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Foofie
 
  1  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 10:51 am
Since geopolitics is not unidimensional, has anyone been noticing that China and Japan are jousting over the territory that some islands are on? So, if Japan decides to build a bomb pronto, we might not have anything to say. Assuming that is correct, then how could we be accepting of a nuclear Japan, but not a nuclear Iran, without making it appear that we have a double standard?

There might be more going on than one can see from one perspective.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 11:35 am
@Foofie,
Quote:
then how could we be accepting of a nuclear Japan,


Last time I checked Japan was our ally, Iran is not.
Foofie
 
  1  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 11:40 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
then how could we be accepting of a nuclear Japan,


Last time I checked Japan was our ally, Iran is not.


From the perspective of the international community we could still be having a double standard. Plus, we have protected Japan, since the end of WWII. Allowing Japan to build a bomb would be like telling Japan that they need to carry their own big stick. That would appear like a double standard, as to who gets to carry a big stick.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 11:50 am
@Foofie,
That is the way it works. When it stops working we will all know.
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 12:05 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Now if anyone would like to discuss the folly of trusting Iran........

I trust them to behave rationally. They've never committed national suicide before, and they won't this time around. Not so sure about Israel though: they could be tempted to fight one war too many.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 01:02 pm
@Olivier5,
Rationality is quite different to the Iranians.
Olivier5
 
  3  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 02:24 pm
@coldjoint,
I assure you that Iranians are human beings, and as such, they are as rational as anyone of us. They've survived what... 3000 years of history? You can't do that and be totally irrational.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 02:53 pm
@Olivier5,
The Ayatollah is rational? He is leading the country,the people have nothing to say.
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oralloy
 
  -1  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 04:26 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:
Since geopolitics is not unidimensional, has anyone been noticing that China and Japan are jousting over the territory that some islands are on? So, if Japan decides to build a bomb pronto, we might not have anything to say. Assuming that is correct, then how could we be accepting of a nuclear Japan, but not a nuclear Iran, without making it appear that we have a double standard?
There might be more going on than one can see from one perspective.

We still intend to defend Japan. And in fact, we are developing a number of outstanding new weapons to use in that defense.

We are developing hypersonic cruise missiles that will be able to scream into a large country at Mach-6 and destroy vital targets with a kinetic-kill warhead before anyone even has time to realize that they are under attack.

We are merging drone technology with stealth bomber technology to create a fleet of unmanned stealth bombers. First up is a medium bomber that can land on and take off from aircraft carriers. It will allow our carriers to pummel a nation from way out in the middle of the ocean -- well away from any anti-ship weapons that they might possess.

The F-35 is also going to play an important role in the defense of Japan (particularly the STOVL hover version that will not be hampered by runway damage). F-35s flying out of Okinawa (and also a US airbase near Hiroshima) will be able to maintain air superiority over nearby waters and sink any surface ships that venture too close to Japan.

The ultimate goal is for all these weapons to not be used -- the goal is more of a Cold War type of standoff -- but Japan is going to be defended very heavily.
Foofie
 
  0  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 05:02 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Quote:
Now if anyone would like to discuss the folly of trusting Iran........

I trust them to behave rationally. They've never committed national suicide before, and they won't this time around. Not so sure about Israel though: they could be tempted to fight one war too many.


And, you are basing this analysis on what (have you forgotten Iran's big war with Iraq in the 1980's)? You seem to have forgotten who was the aggressor in Israel's past wars. You are sounding, in my opinion, as uninformed, considering that Israel would have liked nothing more than living in peace after the experience in Europe circa the 1940's. Perhaps, you are not seeing things historically, but accepting the "progressive's" view of painting Israel as the aggressor.

How old are you?
Foofie
 
  0  
Mon 2 Dec, 2013 05:03 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

I assure you that Iranians are human beings, and as such, they are as rational as anyone of us. They've survived what... 3000 years of history? You can't do that and be totally irrational.


Boychick, how old is Islam?
 

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