Does reincarnation occur or is it all just hoax?

@OmSigDAVID,

So David if you would run your car over your laptop it "soul" would just find and enter a new computer coming off the assembly line?

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@BillRM,

Geee, is that a new option available now, Bill ??
I just got a 27 inch iMac, but I don t think that thay included a soul
with it. I can check its inventory of what was included.

If so, wud that be like slavery ?

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

If a human had a soul that is not depending on the continual existence of the body then I see no reason why a computer would not have a soul that does not depend on the continual existence of it main board.

One concept is no more silly then the other.

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@BillRM,

I am my life intelligence, not my human body.
I know that from having gotten out of the vehicle a few times
in the 1980s. (without addressing whether its "silly")

Its rather nice, tho too short in time, in my experience.
The thing that molts off and thay throw in a hole, is not u.
U have made the erroneous assumption of mis-identification.

David

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

If a human had a soul that is not depending on the continual existence
of the body then I see no reason why a computer would not have a soul
that does not depend on the continual existence of it main board.

One concept is no more silly then the other.

I am not suggesting that the human body CREATED a soul,
the same as a car does not create a motorist to drive it.

In point of fact, some people remember having died,
as babies (i.e., <1 year), whereupon thay resumed
being fully adult, until thay re-inhabited their baby human bodies,
usually in hospitals. Then their respective childhoods continued.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Sorry we need to agree to disagree and so call after "death" experiences can be just the brain shutting down.

I remember as a child having ether given to me and seeing a lovely spinning bands of colors surrounding a "tunnel" before going unconscious.

Real real nice but not supernatural in any way.

An people who claimed to remember past lives had time after time had been shown to be hoaxes.

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@BillRM,

I remain pleased to know that the molting off
of my human body will not be a big deal (in a dispositive sense),
tho I like continuing to use the vehicle now; human life is fun,
but the REAL ME is not going to expire like my outer covering.

I cannot comment on what u experienced as a child,
for lack of sufficient information. I 'd LOVE to get out some more,
for longer times than in the 1980s.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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REAL ME is not going to expire like my outer covering.

As a human who had reach my 65 year on this earth I can only hope you are correct and I am wrong but I see no evidence for it but for wishful thinking.

I can remember telling my last dog that in the next life she could be the human and I could be her beloved pet.

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Wow. There really are folks who take this seriously?
Where is Xingu when you need him?

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@BillRM,

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If a human had a soul that is not depending on the continual existence of the body then I see no reason why a computer would not have a soul that does not depend on the continual existence of it main board.

One concept is no more silly then the other.

True Bill and well said. However I'm not entirely sure just how silly. The degree of silliness depends on a kind of dualism with the concrete on one hand and the abstract on the other, a violation of the general principle that nothing is entirely anything while everything is partly something else

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Real real nice but not supernatural in any way.

I'd agree, nothing is supernatural since the term in effect means "impossible". She, It, is a perfectly natural phenom

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@dalehileman,

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I'd agree, nothing is supernatural since the term in effect means "impossible". She, It, is a perfectly natural phenom

Supernatural mean outside the laws of the universe such as having an all powerful god that can ignore the laws of the universe and do what he/she/it please.

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Except for any repsonses that are a variation of: "I do not know what happens after death"...

...the answers offered here are almost certainly all blind guesses.

Make a guess yourself...toss a coin between any two things offered...and it will be as good as any of them.

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@BillRM,

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Supernatural mean outside the laws of the universe such as having an all powerful god that can ignore the laws of the universe and do what he/she/it please.

Yea Bill I realize that. However I find the notion of "outside" quite impossible. If that were the case, for instance, She could make Herself both exist and not exist

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@Frank Apisa,

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Make a guess yourself...toss a coin between any two things offered...and it will be as good as any of them.

I disagree, Frank. Best one I've heard so far, from the viewpoint of the vic, it's like dreamless sleep

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@dalehileman,

dalehileman wrote:

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Make a guess yourself...toss a coin between any two things offered...and it will be as good as any of them.

I disagree, Frank. Best one I've heard so far, from the viewpoint of the vic, it's like dreamless sleep

Interesting blind guess, Dale...but a blind guess nonetheless.

What is the "vic?"

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@BillRM,

DAVID wrote:

REAL ME is not going to expire like my outer covering.

BillRM wrote:

As a human who had reach my 65 year
on this earth I can only hope you are correct and I am wrong
but I see no evidence for it but for wishful thinking.

Is absence of evidence,
evidence of absence ?
Testimony has been accepted as evidence.
(I dunno what your position is about that.)
I have no incentive to deceive u.
Anyway, there is no rush; u 'll find out in due time.

Nothing that I 've written implies that anyone 's conscious life
requires a human body in order to live.

David

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

The Bible's view is that reincarnation into new bodies on earth is a myth.
It says that when people die it's like falling asleep-
"Don't grieve for those asleep,for they sleep in Jesus" (1 Thess 4:13/14),

then on judgment day we all get a wake up call, (including atheists) in brandnew spiritual bodies-
"So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable...it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body" (1 Cor 15:42-50)

So atheists better get our excuses ready-
Jesus said "Pray that you will be able to stand before me" (Luke 21:36)

then to everybody who makes the grade he fulfils his promise-
"In my fathers house are many mansions..I'm taking you there with me" (John 14:2-6)

People who have had human death
and returned to human life in hospitals have reported that
there is a Judgment Day, which is at the end of your life review experience,
during which u judge your incarnate life by 2 criteria:

1. Love
and
2. Learning.

There have been some complaints
forthcoming from atheists and from suicides.

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The first lie ever told was the one told to Eve in the 3rd chapter of Genesis: "You certainly will not die. . .". The folks believed until people started to croak. Then, of course, a new lie was invented. Namely, some ethereal part of your psyche continues after death.

Believe at your peril.

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

The first lie ever told was the one told to Eve in the 3rd chapter of Genesis: "You certainly will not die. . .". The folks believed until people started to croak. Then, of course, a new lie was invented. Namely, some ethereal part of your psyche continues after death.

Believe at your peril.

Well...I do not do believing, Neo.

But I am interested in how you KNOW what happens or does not happen after death...that is not a guess.

Can you fill me in?

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@neologist,

U will not die, but your human body will eventually wear out and fall off,
the same way that your shoes wear out.

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