USA STOLD 8,000 PAGES FROM IRAQ DOCUMENT?

Some members are probably asking why another thread on this topic? Well, I believe a2k has grown enough that it can tolerate some overlaps. Also, I wanted to make certain all who would be interested got a chance to examine the news feature for themselves.

I didn't catch the earlier thread but I'll go back and see if I can find it. It is an interesting question though. I'm a bit confused at the moment as to exactly who had editorial control though. A quick peruse of the CNN site comes up with :

"UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- Non-permanent members of the U.N. Security Council began receiving their edited version of the Iraqi weapons declaration Tuesday evening, more than a week after the United States and other permanent members got a full copy.

The rotating council members agreed nearly 10 days ago to allow the five permanent countries -- the United States, Russia, France, China and Britain -- get the unedited, nearly 12,000-page document.

After several days of studying the declaration and consulting with the five permanent members, chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix prepared what he termed a "corenarrative," a document numbering about 3,500-pages, to distribute to the non-permanent countries.

Among the recipients Tuesday was the representative of Syria, who repeated his nation's displeasure at not getting the entire, unedited declaration."

http://europe.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/12/17/sproject.irq.un.iraq.report/

According to that Hanns Blix (Chief UN Weapons Inspector) had editorial control.

I've been looking at some other reference to the editing process. A tough slog. I must not be using a good set of key words.

Thanks, fishin. I am not, as you can see, about to talk on this before I become less confused.

another variant from http://www.oneworld.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi?root=129&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oneworld.net%2Fips4%2F2002%2F12%2F20-2.shtml (crossing fingers that link will work)

The edited document contained no ''sensitive'' information from the original, including details in the manufacturing process of nuclear weapons and names of companies that provided weapons to Iraq before 1990, the year it invaded Kuwait.

Last week, Syria also protested against a unilateral decision by the president of the Security Council, Colombian Ambassador Alfonso Valdivieso, to distribute unedited copies of the Iraqi declaration first to the United States, and then to the other four permanent members.

''The U.S. took the Iraqi report after pressuring the Colombian ambassador, and spirited it off to Washington,'' Phyllis Bennis, fellow at the Washington-based Institute for Policy Studies, told IPS.

''The Bush administration then had sole control of the one full version of the report for almost 24 hours before it provided some version - we don't know how complete - to the other permanent members of the Council,'' she added.

Guys...good links for this story, which I'd not heard about yet. I'll see what I can dig up too.

Not precisely on topic, unless the topic is 'what the hell is the US up to?...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,864576,00.html

From FAZ... interesting article, but if you read the last four or five paragraphs, you'll find mention of the release of (at least) info on German companies providing to Iraq pre 90
http://www.faz.com/IN/INtemplates/eFAZ/docmain.asp?rub={B1311FCC-FBFB-11D2-B228-00105A9CAF88}&doc={BED8C892-BC66-4FD5-A556-D7EC8A93C613}

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The UN site, linked by Walter on another thread...
http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/

blatham


As far as I remember (I'll look that up!), media reported that not only Germany, but other states (including the USA) exported to Iraq.

Here's a BBC article related to the -in the FAZ- mentioned 'Tageszeitung' article:

BBC link

And here is the list from the "Tageszeitung" for all firms from permanent member states of the UN Security Council:


Tageszeitung link

(Since I don't know, how long this will be online for free, I'll copy it here:

USA
1 Honeywell (R, K)

2 Spectra Physics (K)

3 Semetex (R)

4 TI Coating (A, K)

5 Unisys (A, K)

6 Sperry Corp. (R, K)

7 Tektronix (R, A)

8 Rockwell (K)

9 Leybold Vacuum Systems (A)

10 Finnigan-MAT-US (A)

11 Hewlett-Packard (A, R, K)

12 Dupont (A)

13 Eastman Kodak (R)

14 American Type Culture Collection (B)

15 Alcolac International (C)

16 Consarc (A)

17 Carl Zeiss - U.S (K)

18 Cerberus (LTD) (A)

19 Electronic Associates (R)

20 International Computer Systems (A, R, K)

21 Bechtel (K)

22 EZ Logic Data Systems, Inc. (R)

23 Canberra Industries Inc. (A)

24 Axel Electronics Inc. (A)

Zusätzlich zu diesen 24 Firmen mit Stammsitz USA werden in dem irakischen Rüstungsbericht knapp 50 Tochterfirmen ausländischer Unternehmen aufgeführt, die ihre Rüstungskooperation mit dem Irak von den USA aus betrieben. Außerdem werden die Washingtoner Ministerien für Verteidigung, Energie, Handel und Landwirtschaft sowie die Atomwaffenlaboratorien Lawrence Livermore, Los Alamos und Sandia als Zulieferer für Iraks Rüstungsprogramme für A-, B- und C-Waffen sowie für Raketen benannt.

China
1 China Wanbao Engineering Company (A, C, K)

2 Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd (K)

3 China State Missile Company (R)

Frankreich
1 Commissariat a lEnergie Atomique (A)

2 Sciaky (A)

3 Thomson CSF (A, K)

4 Aerospatiale and Matra Espace (R)

5 Cerbag (A)

6 Protec SA (C)

7 Thales Group (A)

8 Societé Général pour les Techniques Nouvelles (A)

Großbritannien
1 Euromac Ltd-Uk (A)

2 C. Plath-Nuclear (A)

3 Endshire Export Marketing (A)

4 International Computer Systems (A, R, K)

5 MEED International (A, C)

6 Walter Somers Ltd. (R)

7 International Computer Limited (A, K)

8 Matrix Churchill Corp. (A)

9 Ali Ashour Daghir (A)

10 International Military Services (R) (im Besitz des brit. Verteidigungsministeriums)

11 Sheffield Forgemasters (R)

12 Technology Development Group (R)

13 International Signal and Control (R)

14 Terex Corporation (R)

15 Inwako (A)

16 TMG Engineering (K)

17 XYY Options, Inc (A)

UdSSR/Russland
1 Soviet State Missile Co. (R)

2 Niikhism (R)

3 Mars Rotor (R)

4 Livinvest (R)

5 Russia Aviatin Trading House (K)

6 Amsar Trading (K)

Weitere Länder
Japan: Fanuc (A), Hammamatsu Photonics KK (A), NEC (A), Osaka (A), Waida (A)

Niederlande: Melchemie B.V. (C), KBS Holland B.V. (C), Delft Instruments N.V. (K)

Belgien: Boehler Edelstahl (A), NU Kraft Mercantile Corporation (C), OIP Instrubel (K), Phillips Petroleum (C), Poudries Réunies Belge SA (R), Sebatra (A), Space Research Corp. (R)

Spanien: Donabat (R), Treblam (C), Zayer (A)

Schweden: ABB (A), Saab-Scania (R)

Erklärung:
A = Atomwaffenprogramm, B = Biologisches Waffenprogramm, C = Chemiewaffenprogramm, R = Raketenprogramm, K = Konventionelle Waffen, militärische Logistik, Zulieferungen an das irakische Verteidigungsministerium und Bau militärischer Anlagen
taz Nr. 6934 vom 19.12.2002, Seite 3, 36 TAZ-Bericht )

Translation, if wished, will follow later :wink:

Translation

(main items only - sorry for the bumpry language!)


USA
24 Axel Electronics Inc. (A)
Additional to the these 24 firms with main corporate seat in the USA, the report names 50 subsidiary companies of foreign companies, which cooperated in armament affairs with IRAQ from their US places. Named are furtheron the US departments of Defence, Energy, Commerce and Agriculture as well as the nuclear laboratories Lawrence Livermore, Los Alamos and Sandia as subcontractors for the IRAQ programms for A-, B- and C-weapons as well as missiles.
…
France Frankreich
...
UK Großbritannien
...
USSR/RUSSIA UdSSR/Russland
...
Other Countries Weitere Länder
Japon Japan ...
The Netherlans Niederlande ..
Belgium Belgien ...
Spain Spanien ...
Sweden Schweden ...

Explanation Erklärung:
A =nuclear weapon progran (Atomwaffenprogarnmm), B = biological weapon program (Biologisches Waffenprogramm), C = chemical weapon program (Chemiewaffenprogramm), R = missile program (Raketenprogramm), K = conventional weapons, military logistics, supply for the Iranian Defence Ministry and constructing of military building (Konventionelle Waffen, militärische Logistik, Zulieferungen an das irakische Verteidigungsministerium und Bau militärischer Anlagen )
taz No. 6934 from 19.12.2002, page 3, 36 TAZ-report

Still a bit (understatement) unclear who saw the full report, and who edited.
Should i be surprised?

It is still unclear. And, as you've probably found as well, rather difficult to find mention of this story anywhere.

Well, blatham, this story was r-printed quite often, giving the 'taz' as source .... and just pointing to the German firms.

Thanks for passing along the entire list, Walter. It's so very hard to be satisfied with one's viewpoint when we see they are formed from partial information.

Walter

I checked archives a number of the main US newspapers and (at least given the search parameters I used) couldn't find reference to this story.

blatham

A very quick check gave several - here just the first


http://indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=21786&start=0

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=362566

http://www.quicken.com/investments/news_center/story/?story=NewsStory/dowJones/20021217/ON200212171754000835.var&column=P0DFP

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0600uk/page.cfm?objectid=12463274&method=full&siteid=50082


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