Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

@Herald,

I don't think that ad homs qualify as evidence, just another in your long string of fallacies. How about some evidence for your 45%/30%/25% teleporting, invisible, extinct alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps. Y'know, like any intellectually honest and reputable person would give. Evidence.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

How about some evidence for your 45%/30%/25% teleporting, invisible, extinct alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps.

How about not telling you anything else on that issues - especially things that you so desperately need to hear in order to match them to your distorted and detached worldview.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

1. You are not the Science. You have never had anything to do with any natural or other sciences. Your randomly generated spam is an ugly caricature even of pseudo-science, for the pseudo-science is at least striving to have some pseudo-logic, and you are doing nothing of the kind. You have nothing else than a broken record of the aliens ... full of fables for idiots.
2. My beliefs (whatever they may be) are none of your business. They concern neither you, nor your pseudo-scientific misunderstandings.

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
How about some evidence for your 45%/30%/25% teleporting, invisible, extinct alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps.
How about not telling you anything else on that issues - especially things that you so desperately need to hear in order to match them to your distorted and detached worldview.

It was your idea, homie. You made it accessible to anyone who wants to make it their business when you posted that stinking turd. Now you gotta live with it. Unless you can talk your alien/ILF/god-thingies into teleporting some alternative design for this thread such that you can turn back time.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

It was your idea, homie.

No, it was nothing of the kind. Both the aliens and the gaps are your personal top design development ... and also the idea to make a broken record out of all that.

FBM wrote:

You made it accessible to anyone who wants to make it their business

The personal world-view and the personal understanding of the world is not 'to make it their' - it IS everybody's business. That is why it is called personal worldview - because it is personal understanding of the world, based on personal beliefs of the personally accepted representations, data acquisition and their verification.

FBM wrote:

Now you gotta live with it.

Really, I may somehow succeed living with it (your infinite imbecility) - but I don't see you to manage living with it. Anyway.
BTW, what happened with the specification of the Gaps ... and your belief system?

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@Herald,

Want me to quote your exact, original words again? They're right here in this thread. Your intellectual dishonesty is showing again. If you had any honesty you'd learn the lessons you've been taught here, put down the wingnut denialism, and give up trying to find gaps to wedge your alien/ILF/god-thingy into. How many times do you have to fail before you see the light? Each and every fallacy you stubbornly cling to has been shot down numerous times. You have yet to provide a single scrap of evidence for those earth-design-teleporting alien/ILF/god-thingies-of-the-gaps. Give up the fantasies and denialism, wingnut.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Want me to quote your exact, original words again?

So and so you are quoting them all the time, for you don't have anything else except for that quote in the form of absolutely broken record of some aliens ... where with every day and in any way the new 'quotes' are acquiring some new misinterpretations and misrepresentations.
The truth of the matter is that you can't explain the ontology, neither the causality of the Infinite Gravitation that you are raving, nor even you can tell why you can't stop hiding behind that broken record with the aliens. Why do you feel so comfortable with that aliens? Is it infinite aggression due to absolute creative helplessness, or is it infinite arrogance due to conceit when sitting comfortably into the easy-chair of Scientism?

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@Herald,

The truth of the matter is that you have nothing whatsoever to back up your alien/ILF/god-of-the-gaps hypothesis. It just makes you feel good, and you're willing to deny any part of science that contradicts your fantasy. You don't care how much damage science denialism does to the people around you or society in general as long as you can revel in your fantasy. That's despicable. Show some evidence for your alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps, like scientists show for their claims. What are you afraid of? Losing your feel-good daydream of immortality? Wink

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Science cannot show that there are no gods anymore than science can show that there is at least one god.

Science, logic and reason cannot lead to "there are no gods" or "there is at least one god."

Science, logic and reason cannot lead to "it is more likely there is at least one god than there are no gods" nor can science, logic, and reason lead to "it is more likely there are no gods than that there are any."

This stuff is all the product of blind guesswork.

The only thing science, logic, and reason can lead to in this area is: I do not know if there is at least one god...or if there are no gods. And the evidence available is too ambiguous to make a meaningful guess. Any guess made in either direction...is essentially a blind guess.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

The only thing science ... can lead to in this area is: I do not know if there is ...

     Frank are you developing some special sense of humour, or what? Science and especially its ugly caricature - Scientism, will never confess that "they don't know', for by default they know everything and present themselves as omnipotent and omniscient, while at the same time it becomes obvious that they are absolutely unable to explain elementary things ... from their own claims.
     The priests of Scientism will never confess that they have no idea of what the Infinity of Gravitation in a finite world is supposed to mean, how can one obtain Infinite Gravitation from a finite and super-closed structures - like those that they are using in their 'explanation' of the world: Out-of-Nowhere & Out-of-Nothing. All that they can present is some personally top-designed convenient constructs like aliens of the gaps - red herring (intended to divert the attention to infinity from the real issues); straw-man (to match their distorted understanding of the world), and broken record (to be repeated to infinity).
     The present-day Scientism has already transgressed the event horizon of the absolute irresponsibility, arrogance, and conceit without any covering.

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The cult of denialism:

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

... any part of science that contradicts your fantasy

Actually the things stay much worse than that - it is 'any part of science that contradicts another part of science' (and matches perfectly to your pseudo-scientific misunderstanding of the world). This is called contradiction in the self and is usually a proof that something is inconsistent as a theory and as a concept, and impossible to exist in the physical world.

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@Herald,

Unlike your perfectly coherent and "plausible" your 45% one thing/30% something the opposite of it/25% something that contradicts the first two, teleporting, invisible, extinct alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps. Laughing

Let's see some evidence for that, Prof. Nobel.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Let's see some evidence for that, Prof. Nobel.

I start understanding why you are so aggressive against people like me: you are simply missing elementary imagination (to paraphrase your 'great question' in order to disguise your infinite dullness), and elementary creativity to answer elementary questions ... about your 'sound scientific' beliefs ... that BTW as you personally claimed are absolute zero by all odds.

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@Herald,

1. Intellectual dishonesty-
a) You propose a hypothesis, it's up to you to support it with evidence.
b) Your logical failures have been pointed out in great detail, yet you choose to pretend that it never happened.

and
2. potential menace to society.
a) Spreading science denialism of any variety contributes to science denialism as a whole, which includes such wingnut efforts as vaccine and climate change denialism.
b) Spreading pseudoscience in any form contributes to its use in such things as homeopathy, chiropractics, crystal healing, etc, and feeds science denialism.

So, yes. I'm hostile to people like you who propose such wildly fantastic crap like alien/IFL/god/science amalgamations, and yet who squirm and weasel and cry when they're asked for evidence. Show some evidence or STFU.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

You propose a hypothesis, it's up to you to support it with evidence.

No, it is for the purposes of completeness of the math model, and actually I am not interested in that option at all. You are the one who express keen interest - you are the one who are to provide the evidence in support of or versus it, or whatever.

FBM wrote:

Your logical failures have been pointed out in great detail, yet you choose to pretend that it never happened.

This is your perception of the things. After seeing your great oval pseudoscientific diagram, it is of no wonder.

FBM wrote:

... and potential menace to society.

If you are curious to know your oval diagram of 'knowledge representation and modelling of the world' is much more dangerous to society than any hypothesis I will ever be able to construct.
O.K., why don't you tell us how exactly the completeness of the model for the assumptions is 'dangerous to society'?

FBM wrote:

Spreading science denialism

Your oval diagram is not science ... it is not even first approximation of any science, ... and you are neither the science nor the society.

FBM wrote:

of any variety contributes to science denialism as a whole

I am not denying the science - I use science everyday in my life. What I am denying is the pseudo-science and scientism presenting themselves as science for the purposes of soliciting to money and power ... and that is very much different.

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@Herald,

1) What math model do you have for your alien/ILF/g0d-thingy?
2) Naturally, a purveyor of pseudoscience is going to try to label genuine science as pseudo-science. However, we have free communication globally, you see, so everyone knows that BBT and so forth are genuine science, and alien/ILF/god chimera claims are fringe, lunatic hypotheses. The only way you can change that is to produce some evidence for your hypothesis. Found any yet?

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Naturally, a purveyor of pseudoscience is going to try to label genuine science as pseudo-science.

... and what cognitive tests do you personally have to distinguish 'science' from 'pseudoscience'? How do you distinguish that 'quackery bollocks' and 'pseudoscientific bollocks' are 'scientific terms', and 'plausible hypothesis' is a 'pseudoscience'?

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@Herald,

Science is published openly in peer-reviewed journals so that others can test the claims for themselves. Pseudo-science is making wild hypotheses and offering nothing whatsoever in the form of evidence to support them. *COUGH!*

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