Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

@FBM,

FBM wrote:

To specify the alien/ILF/god-thingy, show a single shread of evidence.

Go on the web search and find it yourself.

@Herald,

Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
To specify the alien/ILF/god-thingy, show a single shread of evidence.
Go on the web search and find it yourself.

You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you. Either you present the evidence or admit that you're full of bullshit. Who/where/what are "the aliens" you keep referring to? Why would anyone in their right mind believe your claims if you don't provide evidence for them?

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@parados,

parados wrote:

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This oscillator chip is not measuring any time.
But you just argued that the oscillation of Cs measured time.

The oscillation of the Cs for the timeserver is not on your motherboard, and the piezo-crystal on your motherboard may measure time but it is not valid as a cyber-evidence. Anyway.
If you have ended up with the lyrical deviations - what is the physical interpretation of the Time?

parados wrote:

Both the oscillation chip in my computer and an atomic clock simply count oscillations and use that to tell time.

They are not 'telling Time' - they measure how far the Time has gone so far. Times goes with or without the Cs and your Piezoelectric clock. If you stop the electric power supply the physical interpretation of Time will not stop - so what it actually is?

parados wrote:

The oscillation of Cs atoms tells time in the exact same way the oscillations of quartz tells time on my computer.

Yes, and they don't have technical correlation - how does that happen?

parados wrote:

Either both measure time or neither measure time.

... when they both stop what is driving the Time?

parados wrote:

You can't argue that only one is measuring time.

But that is exactly the case - only the Cs clock on the GPS is measuring valid time, and your piezo on the computer is measuring something else, but I am not asking that. I was asking what is driving the Time in the physical world, outside the Cs clock and the on-board piezo-crystal ... not what is measuring them.

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@Herald,

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But that is exactly the case - only the Cs clock on the GPS is measuring valid time, and your piezo on the computer is measuring something else

OMG... that is too funny. So time isn't valid unless it is measured by a Cs clock? You sure like to spout idiotic crap, don't you?

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@parados,

parados wrote:

OMG... that is too funny. So time isn't valid unless it is measured by a Cs clock?

Yes, it is not accepted as cyber-evidence unless it is certified by a time-stamp, but this is not the question. The issue was: what is driving the Time in the physical world as a physical feature? Time has existed in the physical world much before the Cs clocks and the piezo-crystals. Time is existing throughout the Universe, but does it run in one and the same way everywhere (is it isotropic)? What is your formal motel of time - designating the Time with a symbol t is not a formal model, for this is rather an ugly caricature of what Time actually is.

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@Herald,

I'll be happy to answer your questions right after you answer FBM's and provide evidence as he is requesting. We might as well make this fair. He asked first.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

I'll be happy to answer your questions right after you answer FBM's and provide evidence as he is requesting.

Actually I don't care whether you will answer that question or not, but in any case scenario I will not answer the redundant mumbo-jumbo of FBM: and do you know why - because I don't believe him ... at all. I don't believe that that guy has ever had any scientific and non-scientific integrity. I simply don't believe him that his intentions are objective and are justified by the ongoing theme, and that he is interested in the issue at all ... and not in something else.

parados wrote:

We might as well make this fair.

So and so we are on the wave of fairness (of which I doubt ... but anyway), why don't you simply confess that you don't have the vaguest idea of what the formal model of Time might be?

parados wrote:

He asked first.

No, he is not asking first - he is asking that continuously ... for over 200 pages on end and that is different, and this is exactly the reason by which I am not going to answer that. Perhaps you both think that you have nailed me with that question - actually it is nothing of the kind. By repeating like a broken record that misinterpreted to infinity stupid question actually you both ridicule yourself to infinity and try to cover by infinite aggression your absolute inability to handle the standing of inconsistency of the Big Bang 'theory' to explain whatever ... but perhaps you should have noticed that this a public space after all, and everything is exposed to infinity ... especially the scientific disintegrity and the inability to cope with elementary situations.

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@Herald,

The real reason you won't answer it is because you can't. You dropped a stinking turd of 45/30/25% this, that and the other, then deny your own 25% and are now too embarrassed to own it. Laughing

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

The real reason you won't answer it is because you can't.

As you say it.

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@Herald,

He asked it first. You should have the integrity to answer his question before you ask your own questions. But it's pretty clear who lacks integrity here.

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
The real reason you won't answer it is because you can't.
As you say it.

All you gotta do to prove me wrong is hook us up with some evidence.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

He asked it first. You should have the integrity to answer his question before you ask your own questions.

     I should have nothing of the kind, because he is not discussing all the possible assumptions in their causality and integrity, and he claimed that he is not even interested in the Big Bang 'theory' (he has assigned 0 believe in the Big Bang 'theory' - just don't ask me where the rest 100% of his beliefs are going).
     BTW asking questions on the issue is part of the discussion - well, not exactly the way some people are imagining it, but that is life.
     Further, why for example he wants to discuss exclusively only one of the assumptions and neglects all the others? Why is he not interested in the option for the Universe to have always existed, and at least one instance of Intelligence to have always existed in it ... by securing the continuation for the existence of Intelligence in the universe by a relay torch, or s.th.
     I am absolutely convinced that his deranged asking about that aliens is hardly with the aim to contribute anything to the current discussion - hence his problems are not mine, from where automatically follows that my beliefs (whatever they might be) are not his problem.

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@Herald,

It's true that we don't have the same problem. I don't have one at all, and yours is that you've made a profoundly and blatantly insane claim that you're now too ashamed to own up to.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

It's true that we don't have the same problem. I don't have one at all, and yours is that you've made a profoundly and blatantly insane claim that you're now too ashamed to own up to.

As you say it.

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@Herald,

OK, so now you reject your own claim. That signals defeat. End of discussion. You lose.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

OK, so now you reject your own claim.

As you say it. Actually to lose from absolute retard ... to answer his totally deranged 'questions', is the greatest reward to me.

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@Herald,

As the final bell sounds, the final score remains unchanged:

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Ta-daa!

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

It's true that we don't have the same problem.

It is obvious - your problem is that nobody wants to talk with you and to answer your posts and you can exist only as a spammer, troll and parasite on host threads, and I don't have that problem ... at least I didn't have it unless I started dealing with your deranged 'questions'.

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@Herald,

So why are you responding to me?

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@Herald,

Pro tip: If you don't want to hear a bunch of deranged questions, stop making deranged claims. Wink

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