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Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2015 11:23 am
@Herald,
No, my computer clock does not use the atomic frequency of Cs. Could you make up some other ****?
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2015 11:25 am
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
I know exactly what I'm claiming
     Seriously, and what is then 'aliens-of-the-gaps' supposed to mean?


****, man. You tell me. You're the one who made it up. How did you come up with that ****?
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Herald
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2015 11:55 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
No, my computer clock does not use the atomic frequency of Cs.
     Obviously ... you are offline from any point of view. The Timestamp servers on the Net use the NTP, and the NTP is based on reference clock - stratum 0: Cs clock on the GPS.
     If you have any other stupid and ignorant remarks - don't hesitate to publish them.
parados
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2015 03:19 pm
@Herald,
The funny thing is my computer still doesn't use Cs to run it's clock. It uses an oscillator chip.

Do you have any other stupid and ignorant remarks to add to the list of those you have made and not provided evidence for.
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2015 08:31 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
The funny thing is my computer still doesn't use Cs to run it's clock. It uses an oscillator chip.
     This oscillator chip is not measuring any time. This oscillator chip is put because the computer is finite automata and that is how the finite automata work - with internal clock ... and this is called tape in the Turing Machine ... and I am not asking about what you don't know about your oscillator and the Cs clock and the way the computer works, for all that is derivative of the real Time.
     The Cs clock and the crystal oscillator are not correlated technically in any way, and yet they are in perfect synchronisation and that is owing to the real Time. When and if you succeed to complete the philosophy thesis on your piezoelectric oscillator (or whatever there it might be), would you answer the actual question - what is the real Time in your understanding of the world ... not what types of clocks can one use to materialise, visualise and measure it?
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2015 08:33 pm

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Herald
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:05 am
@FBM,
You are not leading a discussion - you are only plugging all the discussions with spam and vitriol and nothing else.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:10 am
@Herald,
You're not leading a discussion - you are only plugging all the discussioins with red herrings, psychobabble and evasions, because you have no evidence to support your claim for magical, teleporting, hybrid alien/ILF/god-thingies-of-the-gaps.
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:14 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
You're not leading a discussion - you are only plugging all the discussioins with red herrings, psychobabble and evasions, because you have no evidence to support your claim for magical, teleporting, hybrid alien/ILF/god-thingies-of-the-gaps.
     It doesn't matter what I have and what I don't have. What matters is that you are not able to handle such information. Anyway - it doesn't matter how much spam you make - you will not be told anything on your favourite issue. Actually you are quoting it so often that I start doubting whether that quote is still mine, or has not become yours.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:16 am
@Herald,
Yep, it's your baby, alright. You fucked up bigtime, pulling that wingnut crap out in public without a single scrap of supporting evidence. Laughing
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:42 am
@Herald,
Here's and idea: Why don't you teleport some instructions to your all-powerful, creator overlords and ask them to make me stop exposing your malignant delusions? Wink
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Herald
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 01:25 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
You fucked up bigtime, pulling that wingnut crap out in public without a single scrap of supporting evidence.
     The bad news is that it is you that are the m'th'r-f'ck'r of all threads - for you don't have any evidence about any part of the assumptions of the Big Bang 'theory', and the ugly part of the bad news is that you don't even understand what the problem is.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 01:32 am
@Herald,
If I were making claims about the Big Bang, that would be relevant. But I'm not, so it's a red herring/non sequitur/straw man. I'm making ONE claim: You haven't produced any evidence for your "personal" creationist, 45%/30%25% hybrid cock-up of a magical, information-teleporting, alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps that is the creator of this universe. The evidence that I present to support my claim is this entire thread. Your evidence for your invisible, undetectable alien/ILF/god-thingyis...?
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 06:40 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
If I were making claims about the Big Bang
     So, what is your claim about the origin of the Universe?
FBM wrote:
You haven't produced any evidence for your "personal" creationist, 45%/30%25% hybrid cock-up of a magical, information-teleporting, alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps that is the creator of this universe.
     1. This claim is so distorted and so misinterpreted by your misrepresentations that I can hardly recognise it.
     2. The original claim, which is different and said in different context, did not have as an intention to show you any evidence about any assumptions, which are five BTW, not one. The idea was that the Big Bang 'theory' cannot use one of the assumptions, just so, because it likes it and that suits it, and to disregard without proving anything the remaining four ones.
     3. What evidence do you expect - this are hypothetical assumptions. You also don't have any evidence that the Universe has not existed before the Big Bang 'theory' and that the Big Bang (if has happened at all) has created anything, whatsoever. What evidence do you have about that assumption? You are misrepresenting everything and overexposing it to infinity by repeating like a broken record something said in another context and in connection with something else ... just like most of your other references, BTW.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 06:47 am
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
If I were making claims about the Big Bang
     So, what is your claim about the origin of the Universe?


Don't have one. I specified my claim above about a dozen times: You can't provide evidence for your "personal" 45%/30%/25% teleporting alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps. You pulled it out of your delusional ass. That's my claim. Correct me by presenting some evidence. To refresh your feeble memory:

Herald wrote:

... my personal are God or some meta-intelligence (string theory) or s.th.; 30% another ILF, sending the designs on the Earth even through some form of teleportation or another form of encoded communication (it might have extinct already by the time the information has came here), and perhaps 25% of the Big Bang and the theory that we are made out of star dust (whatever this might mean) and fused with the time by the Dark Energy and Dark Matter....


The rest of your post is more red herring, non sequitur, straw man blithering pseudoscientific technobabble that doesn't deserve a response.

4:0

Sucks to be you these days...
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 07:00 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Don't have one.
     If you really don't have one (of which I doubt), how exactly did you come to know that the Big Bang 'theory' is consistent and comprises true and correct representation of whatsoever?
FBM wrote:
You can't provide evidence for your "personal" 45%/30%/25% teleporting alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps.
     1. My original claim does not include anything of the kind 'ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps' - this is your interpretation of my claim.
     2. The claim that 'ILF/god' ISA 'thingy-of-the-gaps' is absolutely yours - so the burden of proof lays entirely on you, and on nobody else. You are the one, who is supposed to prove 'that everybody, who has gaps in the knowledge and the understanding of the world will inevitably start believing in the aliens' ... for this is exactly what your ILF-of-the-gaps mumbo jumbo is trying to say.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 07:03 am
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
Don't have one.
     If you really don't have one (of which I doubt), how exactly did you come to know that the Big Bang 'theory' is consistent and comprises true and correct representation of whatsoever?


Where did I claim to know that? I haven't. I've only claimed that you don't have **** for evidence for you alternative wingnut hybrid alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps claim.

Quote:
FBM wrote:
You can't provide evidence for your "personal" 45%/30%/25% teleporting alien/ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps.
     1. My original claim does not include anything of the kind 'ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps' - this is your interpretation of my claim.
     2. You claim that 'ILF/god-thingy-of-the-gaps' - the burden of proof lays on you. You are the one, who is supposed to prove 'that everybody, who has gaps in his knowledge and understanding of the world inevitably will start believing in the aliens' ... for this is exactly what your ILF-of-the-gaps mumbo jumbo is trying to say.


Read your own post. It's your claim. Provide evidence for it. What's the problem? You're beginning to see how deranged it is and are trying to disown it now? Laughing
Herald
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 07:09 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Read your own post. It's your claim. Provide evidence for it.
     I have never ever used Gaps - this thingy with the Gaps is your personal claim and understanding of the things - you are the one who is suppised: 1. To specify the Gaps; 2. To prove that science will ever be able to fill them up; 3. To show how exactly the hypothesis with the aliens is explaining and replacing the gap of the inability of the Infinite Temperature to exist without a heat carrier, etc.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 07:12 am
@Herald,
To specify the alien/ILF/god-thingy, show a single shread of evidence. Just one. I dare ya, homie...
parados
 
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Reply Sun 26 Apr, 2015 07:57 am
@Herald,
Quote:
This oscillator chip is not measuring any time.

But you just argued that the oscillation of Cs measured time.

Both the oscillation chip in my computer and an atomic clock simply count oscillations and use that to tell time. The oscillation of Cs atoms tells time in the exact same way the oscillations of quartz tells time on my computer. Either both measure time or neither measure time. You can't argue that only one is measuring time without looking like the idiot you are.
 

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