Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

@parados,

Herald is an absolute idiot; I think one of the most stupid on a2k.

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

everything I have ever seen. The actual quote was:

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As infinity occurs, everything goes - this is obvious, but even more obvious is that you don't have any evidence that ... Infinite Gravitation can appear all of a sudden and 'out of nowhere' ... and without any material carrier.
IMV you are the one to be given the Nober Prize ... for Literature.

No, the actual quote is this:

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As infinity occurs, everything goes - this is obvious, but even more obvious is that you don't have any evidence that Infinite Temperature can exist in the physical world at all; Infinite Gravitation can appear all of a sudden and 'out of nowhere' ... and without any material carrier.

You use a semicolon and then capitalize "Infinite." Either you misplaced a semicolon for a period or you meant it to be a seperate phrase. In either case the previous phrase does not modify it to mean there is no evidence.

I guess we can't expect you to be honest about your own statements anymore because you have repeatedly lied about your previous statements and refused to follow through on your statements about what you would do.

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@parados,

I've caught him being intellectually dishonest more times than I can count. It blows my mind that he thinks he's going to convince someone of or convert someone to his fantasy while being so blatantly ignorant and dishonest. I know middle school kids who could see through his ruse.

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@FBM,

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I've caught him being intellectually dishonest more times than I can count. It blows my mind that he thinks he's going to convince someone of or convert someone to his fantasy while being so blatantly ignorant and dishonest. I know middle school kids who could see through his ruse.

FBM, you really, really, really have no clue have you?!

See my next posting

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A whole branch of science turns out to be fake

Jan
27
by Jon Rappoport
A whole branch of science turns out to be fake

by Jon Rappoport

January 27, 2015

NoMoreFakeNews.com

“The ‘Reality Manufacturing Company’ not only turns out the past, present, and future for mass consumption. It explains why things are the way they are. It appoints itself the master of attributing causes, the king of cause and effect.” (The Underground, Jon Rappoport)

Devotees of science often assume that what is called science is real and true. It must be. Otherwise, their faith is broken. Their superficial understanding is shattered. Their “superior view” of the world is torpedoed.

Such people choose unofficial “anti-science” targets to attack. They never think of inspecting their own house for enormous fraud.

For example: psychiatry.

An open secret has been slowly bleeding out into public consciousness for the past ten years.

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/

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@parados,

parados wrote:

You use a semicolon and then capitalize "Infinite."

... and also the Gravitation, for Infinite Gravitation supposes that this is a concept with special semantics (assigned by you) in your farmal model of the Big Bang (that you have never had). The semantics of the concepts in a formal model of math logic is not the first casual interpretation from some dictionary that you come accross.

parados wrote:

Either you misplaced a semicolon for a period or you meant it to be a seperate phrase.

I have not misplaced the semicolon for a period, but it is obvious that you have misplaced the assumptions of the Infinite Temperature & Infinite Gravitation for a Semicolon (which obviously has some special definition to your).
If you have completed the fundamental problem with the use of the semicolon, would you tell us your definition of Temperature and Infinite Temperature ... as in a beginning.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

I've caught him being intellectually dishonest more times than I can count.

It happens when one misses the point in the main text, which actually is: can you explain without any references, cites and quotes, what do you personally understand under Temperature, Infinite Temperature, Existence of Temperature without a material carrier, Appearance of Temperature without the Time component ... and the very same sequence by inference by analogy for Gravitation.

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@Herald,

Non sequitur/red herring. You're claiming that some sort of god/ILF/something is the source. The burden of evidence is on you. Show us something.

4:0

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@FBM,

That's impossible, and that realization should have been evident from his first claim.

Talking to a dead rock is probably more satisfying, because we can at least hear a echo sometimes.

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@cicerone imposter,

It's good practice identifying logical fallacies, though. Keeps me sharp. I just wish he were more imaginative. He mainly relies on the same old routine of god-of-the-gap, strawman and red herring. Occasionally I get a treat such as an argument from incredulity, though, so I keep going. It's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Non sequitur/red herring. You're claiming that some sort of god/ILF/something is the source.

... and where 'I am claiming' that, that you inability to understand 95% of what you quote and make references to is because of the existence of God?
Do you think that your are omniscient to the extend that you might know what I am thinking ... on the grounds of your lack of good sense and lack of judgement?

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@Herald,

Your claim is a "personal 45% god/ILF-of-the-gaps a)b)c)d); maybe 30% something else; perhaps 25% yet something else." It's your claim. Back it up.

4:0

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

It's good practice identifying logical fallacies, though. Keeps me sharp.

This is wonderful news (that your own logical fallacies keep you sharp), but you may become even more sharper if you start answering the actual question: 'What is your explanation of Infinite Temperature, Appearing out of Nowhere (literally), able to Appear out of Nothing ... and without the Time component being launched (before the existence of Time)' - with or without God? You should pay attention that this last part is inserted especially to prevent you from claiming any more nonsense about any God-of-the gaps having created your Big Bang conspiracy theory and especially the Infinite Temperature and the Infinite Gravitation that might have existed as assumptions. The scientific method does not work in that way, mate: you need something for your explanations, you make backward inference and use that backward inference as an assumption for the preconditions on the grounds of which it has been made. In the math logic this is called tautology.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Your claim is a "personal 45% god/ILF-of-the-gaps a)b)c)d); maybe 30% something else; perhaps 25% yet something else."

... and what is your personal claim: believing 95% in some 'theory' that is explaining 4% of the subject matter. Do you know how much is the belief revision value of 95% plausibility over 4% feasibility?

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@Herald,

If the score is 4:0, 4 is the way to go. You have nothing. If you had, you would've shown it by now.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

If the score is 4:0, 4 is the way to go. You have nothing. If you had, you would've shown it by now.

Would you explain that 'score' - what it is based on?

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@Herald,

Read the thread. Pay attention. You keep asking the same questions over and over and over again, even after they've been answered. Not paying attention to the conversation is either rude or suggestive of a cognitive deficiency. Keep up.

4:0

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Read the thread.

     There is no answer to the questions: what is your personal definition of Temperature, Infinite Temperature, Existence of Temperature without material carrier(s) ... and outside Time; Appearance of Temperature out of Nowhere and out of Nothing ... before the launching of the Time. You may think that you answer the questions and you really give some answers, but they are not the answers to the questions.
     So can you say in no more than 50 words what exactly is Infinite Temperature ... and in another 50 words what is that 'score 4:0' supposed to mean? If you avoid answering the questions I will start answering to your comments in the very same way: read the thread, see in Google, take a look at the wiki, etc.
     Do you need some subtitles for the expected answer: In classical physics the definition of Temperature is ... . In quantum mechanics the Temperature is explained by ... . As a metrics of heat the Temperature is defined as ... . Temperature can/cannot exist without a material carrier because ... .
     The second law of Thermodynamics claims that the entropy (the chaos) in the Universe is increasing, which means that if the Universe is still arranged to some extend at present, it should have been much more arranged by the time of the Big Bang (if has happened at all) for ever since the chaos of the systems in the Universe is increasing, hence the Big Bang besides Infinite Temperature, Infinite Gravitation, Infinitely small Singularity should explain how, from where and why it has had Brilliant Arrangement of the Singularity and what does Brilliant Arrangement is supposed to mean? Pay attention that there is no God here yet - all of the above said is on the grounds of laws of physics and definitions and laws of the QMs.

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@FBM,

If you weren't so deep in denial and

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/lalala.gif

all the time, you'd know that I've already responded to those questions that you keep asking over and over and over again. I will not repeat myself for your amusement.

Meantime:

FBM wrote:

If the score is 4:0, 4 is the way to go. You have nothing. If you had, you would've shown it by now.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/goodmorning.gif

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