Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

No. What you need to do is refute any of the science that supports the big bang.

Not your bull shyt challenge that doesn't say anything.

All the evidence available points to the big bang.

all the evidence available is pointing to anywhere else but at the Big Bang 'theory'.

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I understand that you're convinced, but that's not science

     Obviously - so far as 'the basics of science' is affixed to some accidental & casual quotes from science fiction entertainment franchise of the 1970s.

What if my ideas are completely wrong because there is no evidence supporting them?

You forgot to add: What if my ideas are completely wrong because there is no evidence supporting them?

They're completely wrong because it challenges what is accepted by the top scientists in the field and academia.

Why are you afraid science?

The only fiction around here is you! Your ignorance about science is now legend on a2k. Your denial and inability to back up any of your challenge against the big bang serves only one purpose; your personal ignorance.

Faith healing

Relying on faith healing & prayer
instead of medical treatment

Relying on faith healing:

We have been unable to find references to any double-blind controlled studies which compare the effectiveness of faith healing in place of regular medical procedures. We located a few statements and surveys:

Jehovah's Witnesses: In 1997-FEB, the writer of a book review in the American Medical Association's journal estimated that the Jehovah's Witnesses' belief about blood transfusions has "led thousands to die needlessly." 1 The Watchtower periodical Awake once showed pictures of Jehovah's Witnesses children who followed the churches ban on blood transfusions and died. 2 It is, of course, unknown how many would still have died even if they had transfusion(s).

Christian Science: William F. Simpson, an assistant professor of mathematics and computer science at Emporia State University conducted an exploratory study into the effectiveness of Christian Science healing. He compared alumni records from a Christian Science school (Principia College in Elsah, IL) with those from the secular University of Kansas in Lawrence, KS. One would expect that if Christian Science healing is as effective as conventional medicine, then the graduates of Principia College would live longer than those from Kansas. This is because the Church forbids the use of alcohol and tobacco. But the results were in the opposite direction. The death rates among Principia graduates from 1934 to 1948 were significantly higher than those of the University of Kansas graduates. (26.2 vs. 20.9% for men; 11.3 vs. 9.9% for women).

A more realistic study was made later, comparing the mortality of Christian Scientists and Seventh-day Adventists. Both denominations abstain from alcohol and tobacco. Even greater differences were found in the second test, again with Christian Scientists having higher mortality rates. 3,4 This type of study is fairly crude; its results should not be treated as precise or conclusive. Graduates at different universities may have, on average, been raised under different conditions, or might enter professions of differing danger levels, they might have entered military service at different rates, etc. However, the studies appear to indicate that Christian Science healing is significantly less effective than standard medicine. That is, choosing Christian Science prayer in place of conventional medicine causes additional, preventable deaths.

U.S. death toll among infants and children: In 1998-APR, Dr. Seth Asser, a critical-care pediatrician at Methodist Children's Hospital in San Antonio, and Rita Swan, head of the advocacy group Children's Healthcare is a Legal Duty (CHILD) authored a paper in the professional journal Pediatrics. Asser studied 172 reported deaths of infants and children between 1975 and 1995. Deaths were found in 34 states among members of 23 religious groups. They belonged to families of Christian Scientist, Faith Tabernacle, Faith Assembly and several other religious groups that practice faith healing. He compared the cause of death with the expected survival rates if the children had received routine medical care. They found:

*140 children would have had a 90% chance of surviving if they had been treated medically.

*18 children would have had a 50 to 90% chance of surviving

*11 children would have received some benefits from medical care

*3 would not have been helped from medical care

The 172 deaths are presumably some unknown fraction of the total deaths among children whose parents used faith healing in place of medical treatment.

Also unknown are the numbers of children who died after having received medical treatment who would have been saved by faith healing. As structured, the study only analyzes one side of the story.

Many of the conditions and diseases that killed the 172 children were "ordinary ailments seen and treated routinely" e.g. appendicitis, labor complications, dehydration, antibiotic-sensitive bacterial infections and vaccine-preventable disorders. They cited cases in which:

*A 2 year old child choked on a piece of banana and died an hour later, while her parents frantically gathered other church members into a circle to pray.

*Children with an infection who would have been saved with a single injection of penicillin.

*Babies who would have lived if they received oxygen.

*Five mothers died from relatively common and treatable complications during labor.

*Several children died after long periods of terribly painful suffering. 5,6
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So take your "personal 45% god-of-the-gaps" bullshit and shove it. If I ever saw you preaching that **** to my kids, I'd beat you to the ground where you stood.

In the meantime, while people like you are justifying such bullshit

... people are taking it so literally as to let their kids suffer and die for it.

Can you explain how exactly a question of the kind What are the assumptions of the Big Bang 'theory'? will 'make people to take it so literally as to let their kids suffer'?

You was told what you wanted to hear - what more do you want?

When you start breathing with a gas mask in the park (and it will be much sooner than you may expect), and when you start finding carcinogenic bumps in the fish you are trying to eat, poisoned by the toxins casually spilled into the river ... and into the ocean, by your fellow-atheists, we may have some basis for further conversation.

Until then have a great year.