Actually it is very simple, once those evo-religionist-nuts come in trouble they
declare whole areas as not-related or not having anything to do withh evolution.
It goes on all the time.
Yes, the Biggie Bangie was important, then there were problems, and voila, we
(evo-religionist-nuts) start saying they have nothing to do with evolution,
same with how life starts. first , yes, it was important how life started. Once trouble raise they (evo-religionist-nuts) started saying it wasn't important for evolution. Now probability gives them problems, evolution is not random anymore!
It is sooo funny to see! I made the joke earlier, that one day those (evo-religionist-nuts), start saying, once evolution comes in even deeper trouble, that evolution has nothing to do with evolution!
How about this?
Quote:Natural selection is the engine that drives evolution.
The organisms best suited to survive in their particular circumstances have a greater chance of passing their traits on to the next generation. But plants and animals interact in very complex ways with other organisms and their environment. These factors work together to produce the amazingly diverse range of life forms present on Earth.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/natural-selection.htm
Greater chamge??????????????????????
Sounds randomness and probabilty to me!
But ok, no randomness then, then the question becomes what evolution drives then, he fb?
@Herald,
biology is explained by math and statistics, NOT DETERMINED BY IT> Stop being an idiot like Quahog. PS, can you or /and Quahog display knowledge about how many cumulative mutations occur per species every second and how many of these are lethal, netral, or beneficial?
Your "math and statistics" is unable to do anything but count.
@farmerman,
Quote:biology is explained by math and statistics, NOT DETERMINED BY IT> Stop being an idiot like Quahog
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HERE WE HAVE HIS AH'S AGAIN!!!
Anyway, how come you don't understand it yourself , mate?
IF biology is explained by statistics,
THERE MUST BE RANDOM PROCESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man o man, playing dumb or what?
AND IF THERE ARE RANDOM PROCESSES EVOLUTION IS A STATISTICAL IMPROBABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!
of course it is, it is a hoax from the start!!!
Ican was much, much, much better at this.
If he were here, he would be cringing and begging Q to be on someone else's side.
@Frank Apisa,
well, he isn't here is he?
words, words, words and words!
this time they don't mean a thing mate!!!
@Herald,
Quote: FM, you cannot have an equation in which some of the variables accept probability values and to claim at the same time that although some of the variables may take probabilistic values, the equation as a whole has nothing to do with probability.
You can't declare an equation about probability should include things that aren't possible should be included as probable and yet that is what you have done repeatedly.
@Quehoniaomath,
Quehoniaomath wrote:
AND IF THERE ARE RANDOM PROCESSES EVOLUTION IS A STATISTICAL IMPROBABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Meanwhile we are still waiting for your "
******* EVIDENCE" to support that claim. But as I stated a while ago the probability of you providing that evidence is 1 in a quintillion.
At this rate you will be providing the evidence in the year 1,000,000,000,000,002,014. By then evolution will have produced people that no longer question evolution.
@Quehoniaomath,
It must be you without anything supporting you but your own insane laughter because the math certainly shows it isn't the claims you and Herald keep making.
@Quehoniaomath,
Let me ask you Q, do you think that the probability of a change in the human genome is 4^3,000,000,000?
@parados,
Quote:Let me ask you Q, do you think that the probability of a change in the human genome is 4^3,000,000,000?
of course not, you probably don't know how much
4^3,000,000,000 is?????
it is huuugeeeeeeeee
and cerrtainly not below 1!!
But, I must admit, you are funny, in a strange kind of way.
@Herald,
Quote: A lot of things in the living matter are too complex and too improbable to have happened by stochastic processes
Only if you decide to give up on undertanding the processes. Lets face it, the concept f EVOLUTION scares the hell out of the "religious myth believers".
Quote: For the sake of the truth even the classical understanding of the evolution is not entirely without intelligence.
. What the hell does this mean? Its gibberish.
@Quehoniaomath,
do you understand the concept of "big data"?. Do you ever wonder how scads of big data are sorted or classified or even understood? You and Herald seem to believe that we are only able to determine laws of science by statistics. As Ive said, math and statistics enable us to decode how nature works, not the other way around.
Your simple minded views are typical of "Bible Thumpers"
I think you are totally free of the thought process
@Quehoniaomath,
So you agree with me then that Herald was far off when he used his number.
@Quehoniaomath,
Quehoniaomath wrote:
Quote:Let me ask you Q, do you think that the probability of a change in the human genome is 4^3,000,000,000?
of course not, you probably don't know how much
4^3,000,000,000 is?????
it is huuugeeeeeeeee
and cerrtainly not below 1!!
But, I must admit, you are funny, in a strange kind of way.
But would you agree that the probability that you exist is very close to 1?
@parados,
Quote:But would you agree that the probability that you exist is very close to 1?
Just say what you want to say before you drown yourself in a sea of semantics,
@Quehoniaomath,
I have already made my statement and you just ignored it because it showed how little you know about probability.
@parados,
Quote:I have already made my statement and you just ignored it because it showed how little you know about probability.
That's just funny, because of course you are not able to say
where it shows how little I know of probablity. You just can't.
And of course I ignore you. You are on my
ignore list, very funny girl.
But now and then I take a look and everytimeI see it is exactly the same old garbage.
@Quehoniaomath,
I showed how little you know of probability here -
http://able2know.org/topic/226001-156#post-5771894
