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Text of Released 8/6/01 PDB

 
 
Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 05:10 pm
Because I don't trust FOX News, I tried to find another source for the DPB text to learn if FOX published the DPB accurately. I finally found it on CNN's site. Almost all other news sources published only an analysis of the DPB, not the actual text. I wanted an unfiltered source. ---BBB
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Transcript: Bin Laden determined to strike in US
CNN 4/10/04

The following is a transcript of the August 6, 2001, presidential daily briefing entitled Bin Laden determined to strike in US. Parts of the original document were not made public by the White House for security reasons.

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America."

After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a -- -- service.

An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told - - service at the same time that bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike.

The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of bin Laden's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the U.S.

Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the FBI that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that in ---, Laden lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate the operation. Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning his own U.S. attack.

Ressam says bin Laden was aware of the Los Angeles operation. Although Bin Laden has not succeeded, his attacks against the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he prepares operations years in advance and is not deterred by setbacks. Bin Laden associates surveyed our embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.

Al Qaeda members -- including some who are U.S. citizens -- have resided in or traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks.

Two al-Qaeda members found guilty in the conspiracy to bomb our embassies in East Africa were U.S. citizens, and a senior EIJ member lived in California in the mid-1990s.

A clandestine source said in 1998 that a bin Laden cell in New York was recruiting Muslim-American youth for attacks.

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 05:18 pm
Hmmm...perjury for Rice?
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pistoff
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 05:20 pm
Why?
Why is it redacted?

Yes, Ms. Rice should be charged with perjury under oath. Will she be charged?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 05:23 pm
pistoff
pistoff, the redacted parts conceal the names of information sources to protect them.

BBB
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 05:26 pm
So, if you were in charge and received that along with your daily dose of intelligence; what would you have done that would have prevented 9-11?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 05:33 pm
BBB
August 6, 2001 Daily Presidential Briefing text sources:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,116766,00.html
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pistoff
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 05:46 pm
Facts
FBI on Friday disputes Rice's testimony:


BY KNUT ROYCE AND TOM BRUNE
WASHINGTON BUREAU


Quote:
WASHINGTON -- The FBI on Friday disputed National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice's testimony that it was conducting 70 separate investigations of al-Qaida cells in the United States before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Rice, testifying before the Sept. 11 commission Thursday, said that those 70 investigations were mentioned in a CIA briefing to the president and satisfied the White House that the FBI was doing its job in response to dire warnings that attacks were imminent and that the administration felt it had no need to act further.

But the FBI Friday said that those investigations were not limited to al-Qaida and did not focus on al-Qaida cells. FBI spokesman Ed Coggswell said the bureau was trying to determine how the number 70 got into the report.

The Aug. 6, 2001, memo was prescient in its title, which she divulged for the first time as "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."


more...

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-rice0410,0,3695500.s...

*Ms. Rice should have pushed hard for the FBI to watch the Al Q. cells and seek all possible surveilance methods on their activities and to report those to the NSA on a daily basis. The fact that Al Q. members were taking flight lessons, specific of only flying a plane not take off or landing would have been the RED LIGHT Flashing!
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 05:59 pm
OCCOM BILL
Quote:
So, if you were in charge and received that along with your daily dose of intelligence; what would you have done that would have prevented 9-11?


For damn sure my priority would be Bin Laden not Saddam. In addition I would not allow one of my staff to lie or at best be evasive to an investigating body. Anyone with an ounce of integrity and guts would just admit they did not see the urgency at the time and made a judgement. An error, if it could be called that, is excusable an evasion or lie is not. Unfortunately, evasion, secrecy and bending of the truth has been the hallmark of this administration
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 06:08 pm
Hijackings have been going on since forever.
Rice said there was no mention of "planes being used as weapons." It also says Bin Laden "wanted to". I think you could end that sentence a million different ways. He wanted to do a lot. That doesn't constitute a serious threat--amid thousands of other 'wanted to's'.

Again. This information was happening during the Clinton administration. I don't understand why anyone by-passes them and wants to lay it on Bush or Condi.

If the PDB had stated "planes as weapons", or a similar phrase, however--it would be another story.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 06:14 pm
au1929 wrote:
OCCOM BILL
Quote:
So, if you were in charge and received that along with your daily dose of intelligence; what would you have done that would have prevented 9-11?


For damn sure my priority would be Bin Laden not Saddam. In addition I would not allow one of my staff to lie or at best be evasive to an investigating body. Anyone with an ounce of integrity and guts would just admit they did not see the urgency at the time and made a judgement. An error, if it could be called that, is excusable an evasion or lie is not. Unfortunately, evasion, secrecy and bending of the truth has been the hallmark of this administration

And that would have prevented the attacks how?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 08:43 pm
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 08:46 pm
Basically this just gets a big "DUH!"

Osama wanted to Strike in U.S. , no kidding, really?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 08:53 pm
And the award for most obtuse statement of the twenty-first century is awarded to McGentrix. Rolling Eyes
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Sofia
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 08:55 pm
You're correct, McG.

"The article advised the President of what was publicly well-known: that Bin Laden had a desire to attack inside the United States."
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D'oh.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 08:58 pm
I'm still waiting for an answer to this:
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So, if you were in charge and received that along with your daily dose of intelligence; what would you have done that would have prevented 9-11?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 08:59 pm
BBB
I edited my original post of the DPB text to add to the FOX transcipt one published by CNN to be sure we had the complete and accurate text.

BBB
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 09:00 pm
I have to agree - I still think hindsight is 20/20.


Er - I have not waded through the whole Rice testimony thing - how did she lie?

Thing is - does anyone actually think she, or Bush, really wanted the strikes to happen? Unless you take that viewpoint - (and I am aware Bush said something awful after, or is alleged to have done so, re this being great for his plans) - and I think that silly unless I see some real evidence to the contrary, not just the usual conspiracy crap - then you can only see this as failure to have prescience.

Peoplemay do their best, and bad stuff still happens.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 09:01 pm
hobitbob wrote:
And the award for most obtuse statement of the twenty-first century is awarded to McGentrix. Rolling Eyes


It never ceases to amaze me that you can't talk about a topic without insulting someone at one time or another. Can't you ever grow up?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 09:04 pm
hobitbob wrote:
And the award for most obtuse statement of the twenty-first century is awarded to McGentrix. Rolling Eyes


Hobit - does this mean you think there was sufficient evidence in that briefing to allow the attacks to have been stopped?

As an aside, I find myself wondering how many countries would consider airing such documents. I think this is a real plus for the US - that sometimes secret stuff IS made available.

In Oz, we are not permitted to have details about US installations here, that is readily available in the US!!!!! I mean, we can get it from the US - but do you see my point?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 10 Apr, 2004 09:09 pm
dlowan wrote:
hobitbob wrote:
And the award for most obtuse statement of the twenty-first century is awarded to McGentrix. Rolling Eyes


Hobit - does this mean you think there was sufficient evidence in that briefing to allow the attacks to have been stopped?

Had the administration been on the ball, and not more concerned about missile defence, faith based initiatives, and, Iraq, then yes, I think that it is possible that the Arizona FBI agents report would have gotten proper atention. John O'Neill's efforts to investigate AQ cells in the US would perhaps have received proper staffing. Any number of small steps would likely have been taken.This might have led to the prevention of the hijacking. We will never know, though, will we?
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