Stop blaming Bush for 9/11

exactly...

Why we should blame Bush et al
If you want to know why the Bush administration deserves all the blame, read the text of the August 6th DPB and see for yourself.

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22576&highlight=

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Bill, again, I think what is valid is not comndemnation for failing to prevent it (who knows, impossible to say) but the fact that he is running on how well he and his administration handled it. (Would you like me to get some cites, Foxfyre? You already provided one, yourself. Yes, that is one of the things he is running on.) When the evidence seems to show that what he didn't muddle through adequately he mishandled. Afghanistan doesn't have as good of targets as Iraq sort of mishandling.

Facts
The Bush Regime are accountable.

The Congress should, at the very least censure the Pres. and file charges on Ms. Rice for perjury.

The Bush Regime are liars and miserable failures.

Sozobe, my earlier point was that both side's number one objective is winning; and that both side's campaign managers will use whatever campaign strategy their polling numbers tell them will be most effective. I wonder if that was ever not the case. Sure, in a perfect world they'd just stand up and state the un-spun truth and wait to be judged on their merits... but I suspect I'll be happily married to a Cheese wearing Penelope Cruz, long before that happens. (Subconsciously crosses fingers :wink: )

LOL--be sure to send me an invitaton Bil

Facts
"By no means did he ask me to act on a plan....I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about....The responsibility for the FBI to do what it was asked was the FBI's responsibility.....If there was any reason to believe that I needed to do something or that Andy Card needed to do something, I would have been expected to be asked to do it....There is no mention or recommendation of anything that needs to be done about them."
Ms Rice


Bushco and the FBI knew there were Al Q. cells in the US. They knew that Al Q. had bombed an Embassy and blew a hole in the SS Cole. Al Q. were warning that they would attack within the US. Al Q. had announced a plan to strike a Genoa meeting where GW Bush was going to be with a plane as a missle. The concept of striking buildings with a highjacked plane was not an unknown concept.

Ms. Rice was negligent in her job and so was GW Bush. The Al Q. personnel were in the US illegaly and should have been aprehended with all the vigour that the Govt. could have mustered. Bushco was responsible for protecting the USA and they failed to do so.

Bush is just as responsible for 9/11 as Saddam is.

I voted No. The plot was so ingenious that it couldn't have been discovered. Even if there hadn't been a law prohibiting the CIA from sharing information with the FBI, it wouldn't have done any good. Neither agency had enough information to discover what was happening.

I'm tired of all the hatemongers who want to spread lies about our President.

And I think he's a Methodist, not a fundamentalist.

I am tired...
We have a right and a duty as citizens to speak out against or in favor of Govt. policy and our representatives and I for one will Godamned speak out and type what I feel and observe as long as I am able to do so. If you are tired of reading what I write you can stop reading it .

Bush Regime is a miserable failure.

Type and speak what you want. But if you're spreading lies, expect the lies to be pointed out.

Methodists and Fundamentalists
Methodists and other spiritual topics can be found in the Seekers Guide.
Methodists - An Introduction

Methodists are basically fundamentalists, with no clear doctrine but an emphasis on "living right." John Wesley founded the Methodist church while studying at Oxford University, preparing for the Anglican ministry. While there, Wesley became a leader of a band of students who sought spiritual renewal through methodical diligence in study and worship. The term "Methodists" was originally a nickname given to their study group.

Later, as an Anglican priest, Wesley traveled around England bringing a revival of the Church of England. The movement spread, but the Church of England would not ordain Wesley's priests, so he left for America in 1738 and formed the Methodist church, which spread rapidly throughout the country. The Methodist church is now the second biggest Protestant denomination in the United States.

Methodists
When I was a teenager, I walked out of a my small town church in anger when the Methodist minister proclaimed from the pulpit that city people were inherently bad and only farm people were good.

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Tarantulas
Tarantulas, I rarely agree with Pistoff. But I've noticed that your "truths" are true while you consider Pistoff's "truths" to be lies.

Odd, don't you think?

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I said "mainly" lawyers. That Bush is a second rate businessman does not alter my view.

Good answer, ebrown!

Bill, sure, I agree with the un-spun truth stuff -- you were saying this wasn't a valid reason to criticize ("bash") Bush, though. I think it is. The other side can go ahead and criticize Kerry for whatever platforms he is running on, too -- the jobs plan, whatever. That's fine. What I am objecting to is the idea that there should not be criticism, at all. Valid, pertinent criticism, on all sides, I'm all for.

Good luck with Penelope,though, I'm rootin' for ya. :-)

Having once been a Methodist and having close family who are Methodists, I can assure you Methodists are NOT fundamentalists and never have been.

The Methodist in my area at least are extremely progressive. In fact, they allow gay meetings within the church in Costa Mesa, California.

I don't know that any particular denomination has dibs on fundamentalism. My own family is Catholic, and are essentially fundies.