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What's the chance of Ted Cruz becoming president?

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 04:30 pm
@coldjoint,
Are you suggesting that doomsday preppers are realists?
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 04:45 pm
@parados,
Relative to your conversation with coldjoints, you should consider the following thoujght.

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
- Mark Twain
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:00 pm
@Advocate,
To you Advocate your friend relies on twisted numbers and the results they do show.
What doesn't show is also a reality. And trying to suppress negative information is your obvious motive, and the quote you used is obvious character assassination and only liberal bullying.
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IRFRANK
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:01 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Yours is the obvious error thinking this kind of entitlement society can survive. Look at the nanny states of Europe.


Most of Europe is surviving quite well.
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:04 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
If so please stop using that magenta colored font.


Laughing
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:06 pm
@IRFRANK,
I explained why I use it. Trying to make life easier for everyone.
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:09 pm
@coldjoint,
Rolling Eyes
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:10 pm
@IRFRANK,
I don't so. The limited news on economic troubles in Spain and Portugal, and Germany(Europe strongest economy).

The absence of negative news is bought and paid for, but it is there.
LvB
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:16 pm
@coldjoint,
It's cuz he is the pink armchair commando
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:19 pm
@LvB,
And you a troll with an obsession. They can go to Amkon to see the truth.

http://amkon.net/forum.php
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:20 pm
@Advocate,
Quote:

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
- Mark Twain


Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Wow, Advocate, Mark Twain was spot on!!! Thanks for the quote and laugh.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 06:22 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
That is two in the gang.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 09:12 pm
@coldjoint,
There is a good reason why Spain and Portugal and others are not doing so well. The US pretended that they were saving the oppressed and took the possessions of European powers. Then the US set about stealing from myriad countries around the world, all the while killing and brutalizing the people of those countries.

If the US hadn't stolen so much wealth from around the world, it would be a middlin' banana republic.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 09:16 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
The US pretended that they were saving the oppressed and took the possessions of European powers


Oh pretended? Why don't you prove how the US did that.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 09:37 pm
@coldjoint,
jtt: The US pretended that they were saving the oppressed and took the possessions of European powers

Coldjoint: Oh pretended? Why don't you prove how the US did that.[/quote]

Quote:

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/10/02/the-secret-to-understanding-us-foreign-policy/

The secret to understanding US foreign policy
The Anti-Empire Report
by William Blum
October 2, 2010

In one of his regular “Reflections” essays, Fidel Castro recently discussed United States hostility towards Venezuela. “What they really want is Venezuela’s oil,” wrote the Cuban leader.[1] This is a commonly-held viewpoint within the international left. The point is put forth, for example, in Oliver Stone’s recent film “South of the Border”. I must, however, take exception.

In the post-World War Two period, in Latin America alone, the US has had a similar hostile policy toward progressive governments and movements in Guatemala, Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Grenada, Dominican Republic, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Cuba, and Bolivia. What these governments and movements all had in common was that they were/are leftist; nothing to do with oil. For more than half a century Washington has been trying to block the rise of any government in Latin America that threatens to offer a viable alternative to the capitalist model. Venezuela of course fits perfectly into that scenario; oil or no oil.

This ideology was the essence of the Cold War all over the world.

The secret to understanding US foreign policy is that there is no secret. Principally, one must come to the realization that the United States strives to dominate the world. Once one understands that, much of the apparent confusion, contradiction, and ambiguity surrounding Washington’s policies fades away. To express this striving for dominance numerically, one can consider that since the end of World War Two the United States has:

Endeavored to overthrow more than 50 foreign governments, most of which were democratically-elected.
Grossly interfered in democratic elections in at least 30 countries.
Waged war/military action, either directly or in conjunction with a proxy army, in some 30 countries.
Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders.
Dropped bombs on the people of some 30 countries.
Suppressed dozens of populist/nationalist movements in every corner of the world.[2]

The United States institutional war machine has long been, and remains, on automatic pilot.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 10:27 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Official website of the author, historian, and U.S. foreign policy critic.
About William Blum

William Blum left the State Department in 1967, abandoning his aspiration of becoming a Foreign Service Officer, because of his opposition to what the United States was doing in Vietnam.


This guy has hated America a long time.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 26 Oct, 2013 05:36 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
This guy has hated America a long time.


A typical fatuous response when an American is faced with the enormity of the war crimes and terrorism the US has engaged in. He doesn't hate America just as Simon Wiesenthal didn't hate Germany. He simply hates the vicious war crimes and the relentless terrorism that the US engages in.

Any human being with even a modicum of morality would feel the same way.

Did Justice Jackson hate the US when he said,


The privilege of opening the first trial in history for crimes against the peace of the world imposes a grave responsibility. The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant, and so devastating, that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, because it cannot survive their being repeated. That four great nations, flushed with victory and stung with injury stay the hand of vengeance and voluntarily submit their captive enemies to the judgment of the law is one of the most significant tributes that Power has ever paid to Reason.
Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945).

If we can cultivate in the world the idea that aggressive war-making is the way to the prisoner's dock rather than the way to honors, we will have accomplished something toward making the peace more secure.
Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945).

We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well.
Nuremberg Tribunal.
Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945).

If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.
International Conference on Military Trials, London, 1945, Dept. of State Pub.No. 3080 (1949), p.330.

===============

The US has had a long history of doing exactly what the Nazis did. Just read my signature line. Does John Stockwell, does everyone who points out the truth hate the US?


coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2013 02:53 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
The US has had a long history of doing exactly what the Nazis did. Just read my signature line. Does John Stockwell, does everyone who points out the truth hate the US?


It is not the truth, and the answer is yes. Most likely they do, and found out there is quite an audience. Again you know nothing about propaganda.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2013 02:59 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Do you have a reason that the administration with the help of the biased media and the DOJ, IRS, and even the EPA have tried to silence( and have done very well) and demonize conservatives?

They must have some good ideas. And would be able to prove it if the where in adequate and open debate.



Poor conservatives. Those rotten liberals give them such a tough time.

Funny thing...as I mentioned in another thread...conservatives from coast to coast brag about their conservatism. Their politicians brag about being the "most conservative of the lot" when in a primary. Conservative here; conservative there; conservatives everywhere.

Liberals!

Hell, you gotta turn up rocks to find them. And even then they seldom use the word "liberal" to identify themselves. And when was the last time you heard a liberal politician proclaiming his/her liberalism...or claiming to be "the most liberal of the lot?"

Never...that's when.

Conservatives outnumber liberals by double digit majorities.

Yet the liberals present a danger to the conservatives they cannot handle. Constantly crying and bemoaning what the dirty liberals are doing to them.

What a joke American conservatism is!

A bunch of tail chasers.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 29 Oct, 2013 04:39 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Poor conservatives. Those rotten liberals give them such a tough time.

Funny thing...as I mentioned in another thread...conservatives from coast to coast brag about their conservatism. Their politicians brag about being the "most conservative of the lot" when in a primary. Conservative here; conservative there; conservatives everywhere.

Liberals!

Hell, you gotta turn up rocks to find them. And even then they seldom use the word "liberal" to identify themselves. And when was the last time you heard a liberal politician proclaiming his/her liberalism...or claiming to be "the most liberal of the lot?"

Never...that's when.

Conservatives outnumber liberals by double digit majorities.

Yet the liberals present a danger to the conservatives they cannot handle. Constantly crying and bemoaning what the dirty liberals are doing to them.

What a joke American conservatism is!

A bunch of tail chasers.


So you've moved your silly argument to another thread Frank.

To the extent it indicates anything, it is that it is currently more advantageous for conservative politicians to lay claim to ideological credentials than for their liberal counter-parts.

What this can and probably means is that the ideological spectrum in the Republican Party is much wider than it is in the Democrat Party. When everyone is cut from the same ideological mold, there is little opportunity to draw distinctions on that basis.

It might also indicate, as McGentrix suggested, that thanks to the Vietnam era scramble to be the biggest liberal on the block, the term has negative connotations with the general public ("stinks" as he put it). Why else the move to "progressive"?

Do you really believe that this point-in-time situation means that there are significantly fewer self-identifying liberals (not-with-standing a reluctance to lay claim to the identity for the stink) than conservatives?

Really?

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

 

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