What did u think of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST?

Anyway, if any of you are interested in how fast and loose Gibson has interpreted history, the Bible and archaeology, here's a comprehensive article:

http://www.archaeological.org/webinfo.php?page=10243&source=ereport

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Thanks for the link LW Smile

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I don't happen to be a purist, especially about filmmaking which hinges on how well make believe is made believable but when those who see this film claim it's authenticity is beyond reproach I gag. Even Gibson has not put forth an absolute that this is exactly as it was but then he also hasn't acknowledged how much he's pushed out the envelope with artistic extrapolations. The film is good looking as any polished Hollywood product and will adequately fool those who wish to be fooled.

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The film is good looking as any polished Hollywood product and will adequatly fool those who wish to be fooled.

...biting my tongue...

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Biting your tongue? Please don't do it Gibson-style, especially if someone is standing nearby.

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doglover wrote:

His death degraded to the level of pornography just so Mel Gibson can make an obscene profit for himself by exploiting His death.

I believe you are wrong. Gibson didnt degrade Christ at all, he wanted to tell the brutal truth of how he spent his final hours. I applaud Gibson for having the guts to tackle such a controversial topic with integrity and style.

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Lightwizard wrote:

I don't happen to be a purist, especially about filmmaking which hinges on how well make believe is made believable but when those who see this film claim it's authenticity is beyond reproach I gag. Even Gibson has not put forth an absolute that this is exactly as it was but then he also hasn't acknowledged how much he's pushed out the envelope with artistic extrapolations. The film is good looking as any polished Hollywood product and will adequately fool those who wish to be fooled.

well, seeing as how no one alive today was alive 2000+ years ago, all one can do is guess how Christ spent his last hours. Just because Gibson is a film director does not cheapen the story of Christ.

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It certainly didn't cheapen Gibson's bank account.

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The brutal "truth" is all in Gibson's mind, incidentally.

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Lightwizard wrote:

The brutal "truth" is all in Gibson's mind, incidentally.

just like everyone elses.

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Not true -- I guess you haven't read the overwhelming number of bad reviews by the most respected film critics. Only Ebert gave it a good review and he sheepishly came on his own show and admitted that his fellow critics completely disagreed. I guess some have no imagination and have to have the blood and guts thrown out at them in a manner unprecidented in film history. Gibson has "pushed out the envelope" by filling it with unnecessary blood and gore.

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Lightwizard wrote:

Not true -- I guess you haven't read the overwhelming number of bad reviews by the most respected film critics. Only Ebert gave it a good review and he sheepishly came on his own show and admitted that his fellow critics completely disagreed. I guess some have no imagination and have to have the blood and guts thrown out at them in a manner unprecidented in film history. Gibson has "pushed out the envelope" by filling it with unnecessary blood and gore.

so you are saying that the last days of Christ were not filled with blood and gore? Hmm, many biblical scholars would disagree with you wholeheartedly. I admire Gibson for not cheapening the story. He told it the way it should be told. To hell what film critics have to say, it blew away the competition 2 weeks in a row and grossed more in its opening week than Titanic did.

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Box office has nothing to do with a film's quality -- better look at the list on my box office thread to prove that. This has been rehashed on many discussions on this thread and it is not required that you defend the film to those who do not like the film. The fact is there are six-billion people on the planet and 400M going to see the film for whatever reason (some not so noble as one would believe), it's a not going to change the minds of those who decide that the film is not a good film. The last day's of Christ were filled with blood and gore? If twelve hours represents days, your clock differs from mine. This makes me believe you aren't exactly thinking straight and bias has blinded you to the shortcomings of the film despite the fact that it looks good and has a very good soundtrack. This film had a target audience from the beginning and if you are a a devout fundamentalist Catholic it may please you. If you are not, I have a problem understanding why you like the film. Nevertheless, by all means buy the DVD and enjoy the carnage over and over again. It you need a movie to confirm your faith, I would be visiting my local cleric to find out why.

I believe he did cheapen the story, unlike an effort like "Ben Hur" which is always going to be a great film and a masterpiece. This is not a masterpiece.

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BTW, what constitutes "many" Biblical scholars because "many" of them do not review the film as being accurate. Historically and archaelogically it is not accurate. Incidentally, there are scenes in the movie which are not in the Scriptures and many of these are based on the Emmerich view of the passion -- she happened to be a virulent anti-Semite. You can take that anyway you want -- each individual will have their own interpretation.

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Lightwizard wrote:

Box office has nothing to do with a film's quality --

The last day's of Christ were filled with blood and gore? If twelve hours represents days, your clock differs from mine. This makes me believe you aren't exactly thinking straight and bias has blinded you to the shortcomings of the film despite the fact that it looks good and has a very good soundtrack.

I believe he did cheapen the story, unlike an effort like "Ben Hur" which is always going to be a great film and a masterpiece. This is not a masterpiece.

1. actually, yes, box office sales determine how successful a movie is, no matter the budget or casting.
2. The last hours of Christ were filled with gore and pain.
3. I am not biased, I simply know it is one of the more accurate films portraying Christ and it was done with class. Ben Hur? LOL, that does not even compare.
Anyone else?

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BWShooter,

success Not Equal

quality

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Craven de Kere wrote:

BWShooter,

success quality

usually they go hand in hand. Point to a film that strays from this.

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Pearl Harbour, Rambo I,II, etc..., Dude, Where's My Car, Porkys, Titanic, etc....
Very Happy

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Let some live in their delusion that the best movies are those with big box office. Ignorance is bliss.

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BTW, if "Ben Hur" were to caculated at today's movie ticket prices, it would outstrip Mel's film royally. That is one problem with the lists of 50 or 100 top box office films. So by BSShooter's criteria, it is a better film.

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