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Patriot Act 101

 
 
Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 02:29 pm
(read the whole thing, please - T.)

By Jon Thibault
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 1, 2004

The USA Patriot Act has consistently been derided by the Left since President Bush signed it into law on October 26, 2001. Given all the hubbub, it is surprising how little is known about its content. The majority of the Act amends and broadens several other statutes, including the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA), the Federal Reserve Act and Title 18 of the United States Code. The Patriot Act is largely incomprehensible to most readers because, for obvious reasons, it does not include the original legislation it revises. A typical section looks like this:

Section 5341(b) of title 31, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

'(12) DATA REGARDING FUNDING OF TERRORISM- Data concerning money laundering efforts related to the funding of acts of international terrorism, and efforts directed at the prevention, detection, and prosecution of such funding.'

Owing to its complexity, there is a plethora of misinformation and hysteria surrounding the Patriot Act, particularly by Democrats who fear their civil liberties are being stripped away by evil Republicans. The problem is, the House passed it with a vote of 357-66, and it flew through the Senate with a vote of 98 to 1. Either both Republicans and Democrats suddenly stopped caring about civil liberties, or the bill isn't all that bad.

Much has been made, for example, of Section 216, which modifies the definitions of "pen register" and "trap and trace device" in the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. A pen register is a device which records "numbers dialed or otherwise transmitted on the telephone line to which such device is attached." Trap and trace devices record incoming numbers (caller ID is a trap and trace device).

Section 216 changes the terms set forth by the ECPA to include internet communications. It expands the definition of "pen register" to include any "instrument or facility from which a wire or electronic communication is transmitted." Trap and trace devices now can capture "signaling information reasonably likely to identify the source or a wire or electronic communication." The fear is that these expanded definitions will allow the government to monitor and trace URLs, emails, and other internet activity, but these fears are as yet unfounded. The watchdog group Electronic Privacy Information Center says of Section 216, "The full impact of this expansion of coverage is difficult to assess, as the statutory definitions are vague with respect to the types of information that can be captured and are subject to broad interpretations." Then why do liberals assume the worst?

The Patriot Act has made the antiwar, mask-wearing, WTO-hating, riot-at-the-drop-of-a-hat crowd more paranoid than ever. Not in Our NameNew York Times article by Jim Rutenberg, "Mr. Kerry has proposed revisions to [the Patriot Act]. He agrees it must expedite the pursuit and capture of terrorists but says it must be written with great consideration of civil liberties." Rutenberg leaves it at that. The obvious question is, why did Kerry vote for the Patriot Act if it needed revisions? Maybe, as with the Iraq War Resolution, he just didn't understand the crux of the legislation.

Judging from Kerry's website, he still doesn't understand it. In a press release, the Kerry camp explains that it isn't the Patriot Act itself which is problematic, but rather mean old John Ashcroft, who has taken an innocent piece of legislation and used it against thousands of law-abiding Americans:

"But, the real problem with the Patriot Act is not the law, but the abuse of the law. John Ashcroft has used police powers in secret ways and for political purposes - authorized his agents to monitor church meetings and political rallies without any cause and without the need to get approval."

If there is anyone out there who can provide a source for Kerry's claim that Ashcroft ordered g-men to pose as nuns and infiltrate church meetings, please do so. More likely, Kerry's is using "church" as a euphemism for "mosque," which most people would agree is where a lot of terrorists hang out. And, given Kerry's unstoppable mendacity, one can safely assume those "political rallies" looked something like this. In any case, Kerry feels, "You can sum up the problems with the Patriot Act in two words: John Ashcroft." Which is why Kerry wants to weaken it:

"Given these abuses, John Kerry believes it is necessary to scale back several provisions in the Patriot Act and introduce a new law to assure our enhanced security does not come at the expense of our civil liberties, such as more oversight of sneak and peak searches."

Kerry's argument is patently flawed here. He claims Ashcroft is the problem, not the Patriot Act. If Kerry becomes President and replaces Ashcroft with a kinder, gentler Attorney General (as Kerry has adamantly said he will), then it wouldn't be necessary to alter the Patriot Act in any way because Ashcroft will no longer have the power to "abuse" it.

In other words, Kerry voted for a piece of legislation which increased the surveillance and investigative powers of the government, but then was shocked when it was actually used by the Justice Department. More likely, as with NAFTA and the war with Iraq, Kerry knew exactly what he was doing, but must now furiously backpedal to comply with the ideology of his leftist constituents.

Perhaps the most common fear among the Left is that the Patriot Act has given the government the right to wantonly look through our library records. As bizarre as it sounds, this is actually cause for concern among liberals who have nothing better to worry about. A Boston Globe article from September of last year stated, "Perhaps nothing in the USA Patriot Act has fed fears of rampant government snooping more than a part of the antiterrorism law allowing federal agents to obtain library and business records." Are library records privileged? Is there an implied librarian-borrower confidentiality that nobody knows about? It's safe to assume that the average person could care less if the FBI discovers how many times he or she read The Shining, especially if that small sacrifice helps the government learn that a guy named Mohammad has suddenly developed an interest in architecture, airplanes and combustible chemicals.

As it turns out, the fear of having our coveted reading habits exposed is unwarranted. The ACLU made a huge stink about it, claiming that "a survey conducted by the University of Illinois suggested that, by December 2001, the FBI had already approached 85 out of some 1500 libraries." The ACLU sued the Justice Department and demanded the release of information regarding the amount of library records it sought. Imagine their chagrin when the Justice Department released a memorandum showing that law enforcement had not once used the Patriot Act to obtain library records. It's a good thing, too. The issue had turned into a hot potato for rogue librarians across the nation. Some were reportedly so frazzled by the thought of the Feds kicking down their doors that they destroyed many library records themselves. Apparently, librarians are an excitable bunch who, when pushed to the edge, aren't afraid to take the law into their own hands. Thank goodness they use their powers for good rather than evil.

Of course, the legislation regarding library records wouldn't worry normal people. According to the Boston GlobeFront Page Magazine
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Centroles
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 03:39 pm
I think that people take issue with the fact that people are being detained indefinately without charges ever being pressed, without ever having to hold a trial or be able to get legal help, without even telling the people why they have been arrested and detained.

something about that just isn't right. how can you prove that you're innocent if you never get a trial, if you don't even know why you're in jail.

i don't care if someone in the fbi does think you might be in someway connected to an organization that gave money to another organization that funded a arab extremist group.

you should have a chance to prove that you're innocent.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 04:12 pm
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you should have a chance to prove that you're innocent.

In fact, here in the US, are the accusers no longer required to prove guilt?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 04:44 pm
It all depends whether these people are under suspicion of a crime, in which case they would be entitled to counsel and a trial, or whether they are accused of war crimes or are prisoners of war which is how the detainees at Guatanamo are being treated. The rumors that U.S. citizens have been rounded up, arrested, and are being held indefinitely without counsel is a myth.

Maybe it is a decidedly conservative viewpoint, but many of us think that persons in the country illegally should be arrested and should not be entitled to the same rights and privileges as U.S. citizens. They should be deported or, if they are identified with the enemy, they should be detained indefinitely at prisoners of war until the war is over. If they are guilty of war crimes, they should be held until they are tried as such.

Being a U.S. prisoner of war isn't all that bad.
My parents ran the commissary at a Prisoner of War base between Roswell and Dexter NM during WW II. Many U.S. military guards and civilian employees became fast friends with some of those prisoners. My mom corresponded with some of those boys after they went home until she died. I wonder if that is happening at Guatanamo as well?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 05:24 pm
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The rumors that U.S. citizens have been rounded up, arrested, and are being held indefinitely without counsel is a myth.

Evansville Eight
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Critics of the government's terrorist watch lists cite the "Evansville Eight" as representing the potential danger of such lists. In this case, seven Egyptian men and one naturalized U.S. citizen, living in Evansville, Ind. were detained just following the Sept. 11 attacks because the estranged wife of one of the men told the FBI that her husband and his friends were planning a terrorist attack. The men were released after the FBI found the wife's allegations false.

However, according to Special Agent Tom Fuentes, former head of the Indianapolis FBI field office, "Unfortunately, the record still remained in the system," even though the allegations were determined to be untrue. "Having been arrested, their names were entered into databases as terrorists … and even though they had been cleared, and released, and allowed to go home to Evansville, there were repercussions as a result of their names being in," he says.

One of the "Evansville Eight" was held for six hours at an airport while officials investigated his status. Others found the terrorist allegations appearing when they applied for jobs or loans.

So you see, not only are Americans held sans counsel, they are labeled as "threats" even after they have been "cleared."
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pistoff
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 05:38 pm
Homeless
"they should be detained indefinitely at prisoners of war until the war is over."

Uh...is this in direct reference to "The War ON Terror"? If so, then these prisones could be in prison for the next 100 years.

Idea: Round up all the homeless and classify them as "Enemy Combatents". Since being a prisoner of war is so cushy why not give the homeless a place to stay and food?
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 05:51 pm
Foxfyre wrote:

Being a U.S. prisoner of war isn't all that bad.
My parents ran the commissary at a Prisoner of War base between Roswell and Dexter NM during WW II. Many U.S. military guards and civilian employees became fast friends with some of those prisoners. My mom corresponded with some of those boys after they went home until she died. I wonder if that is happening at Guatanamo as well?


Foxfyre, Please tell me this is an April fools joke. If my government imprisoned me for any amount of time without any proof of wrong doing, I would feel awfully mad.

Not that bad?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 05:56 pm
A U.S. citizen cannot by law be a prisoner of war. Please read my post. U.S. citizens are not being rounded up and held without counsel or due process.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 06:02 pm
Foxfyre,

What about Jose Padilla? He was another US citizen who was held without counsel or due process.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 06:25 pm
Read this about Padilla
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 06:30 pm
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Sponsored Link
"Jose Padilla" Music CDs and DVDs At Songsearch

Your reason for posting this was?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 06:32 pm
You are kidding, right?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 1 Apr, 2004 06:46 pm
Your link went to a bunch of hits from a search engine. i just copied the one that seems to be most at your level. Very Happy
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Sun 2 May, 2004 06:58 pm
Who's Afraid of the Patriot Act?

Bernie Sanders thinks the Patriot Act lets the government spy on you for the books you read. Think again.
by Claudia Winkler
04/28/2004 12:00:00 AM

"THE USA PATRIOT ACT gives the government sweeping authority to monitor what books we read and buy." When that flat falsehood is being peddled by a national legislator, it's no wonder bookstores and libraries are circulating petitions to amend this fearful law, and ordinary American readers are signing them, in the earnest hope of rescuing our basic freedoms.

But Rep. Bernie Sanders of Vermont is not alone in publicizing (on his website) this scurrilous rendition of the Patriot Act. The American Civil Liberties Union also propagates a caricature of the law as "setting the FBI loose on the American public." Here's a snippet from the ACLU's analysis of the relevant part of the statute, Section 215:

"For example, the FBI could spy on a person because they don't like the books she reads, or because they don't like the websites she visits. They could spy on her because she wrote a letter to the editor that criticized government policy."

To say the Patriot Act authorizes the FBI to spy on people because of their taste in reading is like saying that equipping beat cops with night sticks authorizes the police to bludgeon old ladies who annoy them. Sure, a rogue element at the FBI can run amok. It could before the Patriot Act. It can after the Patriot Act--not by doing what the law authorizes, but by breaking the law.


Judge for yourself. Section 215 is very short. It has to do with record requests "for an investigation to protect against international
terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities." Such an investigation must be authorized by a federal court--the FISA court, specialized in foreign intelligence matters, an entity created by a Democratic Congress and Democratic president in 1978 and manned by normal federal judges assigned by the chief justice for seven-year terms.

Section 215 stipulates that the FBI's application for a court order "shall specify that the records concerned are sought for an authorized investigation . . . to obtain foreign intelligence information not concerning a United States person or to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities."

Just in case neither the FBI nor the authorizing court does its job properly, there is an oversight measure built into Section 215: Every six months, the attorney general must report to Congress how many requests for court orders have been made and how many granted. So far the number of searches of library and bookstore records reported under the Patriot Act: zero.

IT IS ALWAYS POSSIBLE, of course, that some piece of Section 215, or any other part of the Patriot Act for that matter, has been ill designed, perhaps too broadly tailored. It's possible, and the question deserves to be examined, and defects repaired. But the good people busy signing petitions--printed in patriotic red, white, and blue--at bookstores aren't being invited into that conversation. They're being cynically manipulated by demagogues who spread contempt for government.

Says Mark Corallo, chief spokesman for the Department of Justice, "You're scaring regular Americans into believing that their government is doing things that the government is neither inclined to do nor has the legal authority to do."

Britain's longest serving prime minister of modern times, Margaret Thatcher, used words with flair. She once called it "wicked" to suggest that those who opposed some particular Labour party social-uplift measure ipso facto didn't care about the poor. It is similarly wicked to suggest that those who see a need to provide the government with new investigative tools appropriate to the new security situation therefore are indifferent to the Constitution.

Claudia Winkler is a managing editor at The Weekly Standard.

Link
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Deecups36
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2004 06:57 am
Actually, quite a lot is known about the USA Patriot Act as you can easily read about it on the internet in total and free of charge.

People, on both the left and the right for your wingnut information, are alarmed to think the USA Patriot Act greatly expand the role of the government and merges the military and the civilian police. Americans are horrified to think our library habits and book buying choices can be tracked and monitored under this scary bill, as well as our internet and blogging activities.

Owning and possessing household cleaners like bleach and ammonia under the USA Patriot Act can be charged as having WMD's and you can be prosecuted as a terrorist.

Constitutionalists and civil libertarians are correct to be alarmed
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2004 07:06 am
Foxfyre wrote:


Being a U.S. prisoner of war isn't all that bad.


And how many times have you been a POW? Rolling Eyes
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2004 07:06 am
Obviously you haven't seen the latest photos of the US's wonderfully treated prisoners.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2004 07:08 am
I'm sure these prisoners just love it!

http://www.newyorker.com/images/online/040510onslpo_prison_06_p350.jpg
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infowarrior
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2004 07:53 am
wilso:

ROFL! Touche!

Consider the source and the agenda of the author who actually had the gaul to write that sentence. Laughing
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Umbagog
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2004 08:29 am
Anti-Kerry
This defense of the Patriot Act is so rife with prejudice and presumed posturing that it isn't even funny. Bigger, more powerful government has historically ALWAYS been bad for the people under which it rules. You can't spin that away, no matter how much of an idiot you are willing to allow yourself to look like.

Ironically, making government stronger and more oppressive as the solution to terrorist attacks IS funny, since a strong and oppressive government created the backlash and attacks in the first place.

Imperial forces cannot see the inherent self-destruction in the increase of their power over others. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The author of this piece is a C student - barely, with little if any awareness of the greater world around him. His shrill contempt for Kerry suggests he wears a collar and a lease, and obediently licks the jam off of his "master's" toes when ordered to do so...
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