Hell-bent!

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@McTag,

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Not something you hear every day.

Indeed, even when one lives in the US is it something heard every day. But is that the point, McTag?

Why don't you address this, that you agree with Merry the rank coward, LOL and me, to the guy who advanced yet another spurious notion about language? The guy who then made pathetic attempts to "defend" his spurious notion instead of just admitting he was mistaken. The same guy who then compounded his hypocrisy by joining in with that same aforementioned coward that Contrex had, a number of times, pointed up as an ignorant asshole.

This would be the same guy who ignored the language arguments, started out with the behavior you don't seem fond of, then AGAIN, refused to address more language arguments and went to more of the behavior that you decry.

Why are you addressing this to me?

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@JTT,

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the guy who advanced yet another spurious notion about language? The guy who then made pathetic attempts to "defend" his spurious notion instead of just admitting he was mistaken. The same guy who then compounded his hypocrisy by joining in with that same aforementioned coward that Contrex had, a number of times, pointed up as an ignorant asshole.

This would be the same guy who ignored the language arguments, started out with the behavior you don't seem fond of, then AGAIN, refused to address more language arguments and went to more of the behavior that you decry.

My head is whirling!

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@contrex,

contrex wrote:

JTT wrote:
the guy who advanced yet another spurious notion about language? The guy who then made pathetic attempts to "defend" his spurious notion instead of just admitting he was mistaken. The same guy who then compounded his hypocrisy by joining in with that same aforementioned coward that Contrex had, a number of times, pointed up as an ignorant asshole.

This would be the same guy who ignored the language arguments, started out with the behavior you don't seem fond of, then AGAIN, refused to address more language arguments and went to more of the behavior that you decry.

My head is whirling!

Don't let it bother you,contrex. At least you've got a head.

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@contrex,

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My head is whirling!

Likely the cause of your frequent nonsense on the English language, C.

But I must note just how well you have, YET AGAIN, addressed the language issues that YOU raised.

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@Lustig Andrei,

Don't let it bother you,contrex. I don't mind that you've portrayed me as an ignorant asshole.

My greater interest is in the truth. As a newspaper guy responsible for editorializing with the obituary column, I was able to develop this keen ability to defend my positions against all the stiffs.

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@JTT,

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Why are you addressing this to me?

But I wasn't addressing it to you. I made a general comment, which I believe to be true.
I made another comment later, which I was quite pleased with.
See if you can seek it out, and make a constructive comment or two, if you can think of one.
And for ****'s sake calm down.

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@McTag,

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But I wasn't addressing it to you. I made a general comment, which I believe to be true.

But you were. Because I made that statement. And your general comment only further described that Contrex was, to state it mildly, wrong.

So why didn't you address this to the only guy who was wrong on this thread?

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See if you can seek it out, and make a constructive comment or two, if you can think of one.

Here's a constructive and accurate one; you are a hypocrite. You ignore C's and everyone else's comments because you don't have the honesty to admit you'd rather stick it to me.

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I made another comment later, which I was quite pleased with.

I have very little interest in looking for examples of you preening.

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@JTT,

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You ignore C's and everyone else's comments because you don't have the honesty to admit you'd rather stick it to me.

And I thought we were getting on rather better this week.

I protest.
I attack everyone equally, without prejudice, fear or favour. Wink

Seriously, I hope I make it clear when I am disagreeing with some particular person. This was not directed at you.

But since you raised the point: is the phrase "hell bent for leather" used in any writings to your knowledge? Was it ever used before Frankie Laine recorded the song "Rawhide", or only afterwards? (my view is, it is a horrible, illogical and unnecessary mix-up of two unrelated idiomatic phrases, as noted above.)

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@McTag,

I've seen it reasonably often in the western genre. In paperback, mostly. I don't recall having actually heard the expression.

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Is it safe to come out yet?

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@McTag,

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But since you raised the point: is the phrase "hell bent for leather" used in any writings to your knowledge? Was it ever used before Frankie Laine recorded the song "Rawhide", or only afterwards?

Does it matter?

But the answer to that is, Yes.

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Hell-Bent for Election
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hell-Bent For Election

Directed by Charles M. Jones
Produced by Stephen Bosustow (executive producer)
John Hubley (producer)
Story by E.Y. Harburg (lyrics)
Voices by Marvin Miller (narration)
Music by Earl Robinson
Animation by Dave Hilberman
Adrian Woolery
Robert Cannon
Ben Washam
Zack Schwartz (design)
Studio United Film Productions
Distributed by United Auto Workers
Release date(s) July 1944
Color process Technicolor
Running time 13 mins (two reels)
Language English
Hell-Bent For Election is a 1944 two-reel (thirteen minute) animated cartoon short subject now in the public domain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell-Bent_for_Election

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(my view is, it is a horrible, illogical and unnecessary mix-up of two unrelated idiomatic phrases, as noted above.)

Speaking frankly but without any rancor, does this matter either?

"bent for"
about 1,600,000 results

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@JTT,

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@laughoutlood,

It seems, LOL, like you are desperate to say something but words invariably fail you.

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@laughoutlood,

These are very good. I've seen them before. You'd probably have to explain some to non-Brits.

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@JTT,

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Speaking frankly but without any rancor, does this matter either?

"bent for"
about 1,600,000 results

You raised the question, the authenticity of the phrase "hell bent for leather".
I questioned it, saying I had never seen it except in a "western" song.

So how does your post relate to that? I can't see why you posted as you did. But maybe I'm too tired. I got a new hedge trimmer today, and I've been out a-trimming of everything whether it needed it or no.

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@McTag,

I only heard it in Judas Priest.

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@McTag,

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You raised the question, the authenticity of the phrase "hell bent for leather".
I questioned it, saying I had never seen it except in a "western" song.

You're a Brit, McTag. Though it wasn't a daily idiom in NA, [how many are?] it is, probably more, was used with 'for' in circumstances warranting it.

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M-W

2 bent adj

: strongly inclined : determined —usually used with on <was bent on going>

Why must I continually point up examples that I have already presented?

Do you not understand the meaning of the word 'usually'?

And I gave another example;

"Hell-Bent for Election"
Did you miss the title of the 1944 movie?

"We're bent and bound for [place]." was a fairly regular example.

Not to mention that Google yielded 1.6 million hits for "bound for".

As users of NaE, knowing full well that 'bent' didn't always require 'on', we even developed the idiom, 'bent out of shape'.

Do you use that one in BrE?

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@izzythepush,

Yes, I suspect that you too, are a Brit, Izzy.

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@JTT,

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It seems, LOL, like you are desperate to say something but words invariably fail you.

A maven would enjoy the Cockney Alphabet given the "L for leather" reference. One purported etymology site quoted 1928 putatively as the earliest reference to hell bent for leather without attribution and with the usual melding of metaphors story.

And on the contrary old bean, I'm pretty smuggled up with my language capabilities thank you for noticing and DIY don't let those merkins and Brits give you the edgars, I say.

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