The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

No questions here. Firefly is a hypocrite and race baiter.

I wanna be slow
to hurl any ad hominem conclusions.





David

We talking about Firefly here..............................................

What is this nonsense about "your camp" or referring to "Zimmerman supporters" and "Zimmerman haters"?

Is that your feeble-minded childish conception of the criminal justice system and trials? It's nothing more than a sporting event where you root for your favorite team, based on nothing more than your own personal biases?

You're obviously not grown-up enough to realize that criminal trials are conducted for the purpose of seeking justice for someone the state believes was the victim of a criminal act by the defendant, and to commit such a crime would be to act against the lawful authority of the state.

There was only one defendant in this case, only one man accused of a crime--the homicide victim was not on trial, and, the verdict, in reality, does not reflect on his motives or intentions, let alone his guilt of anything.

Either you are interested in seeing legal justice carried out, or you aren't, it has nothing to do with "camps" or "supporters" or "haters"--the evidence and laws are what either support or do not support the defendant in the minds of the jurors.

This case ended with the verdict last summer after what appeared to be a very fair, and justified trial. I'm willing to accept the verdict, and move on to discussing Zimmerman since the acquittal--something I've repeatedly tried to do.

Why do you feel a need to keep harping on a now ended legal case and trying to replay it so it fits into your simplistic comic book version of good vs evil? Your fictionalized account is not the case the jury heard. They heard none of the trash you keep asserting, and can't stop asserting, about Trayvon Martin. Their verdict made no judgment about his character, or his motives, or his intentions, that night. Their task was only to sit in judgment of George Zimmerman, and render a verdict regarding whether he committed an act of murder when he shot and killed Trayvon Martin.

They found it was possible he acted in self-defense, rather than with murderous intention toward Martin, and delivered a Not Guilty verdict.

Apparently you either don't find the actual jury verdict acceptable, or you question its basis, because you can't stop re-trying this case--your own fictionalized version--because you want a verdict that clearly says Trayvon Martin deserved to die.. Why? Why do you need to prove that? Because it gives you an excuse to keep voicing your clearly racist attitudes and thinking?

Somewhat idiotic trying to explain this case when they arrive at their own conclusions not in any of the public records. They champion a kid murderer, and they stand in applause. They are sick and stupid people not worth the time of day.

It is also idiotic thinking she knows anything about it except the white guilt she feels and her need to help the poor put upon black race. It stinks of race baiting and and socially acceptable memes.

Funny how the confrontation occurred way back in the area where Mr. Zimmerman had been advised some three minutes earlier that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon.

How exactly did Trayvon end up back there?

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David

Very, very sad, Bill...since you asked!

NO, no, it had a happy ending with the ACQUITTAL.

Firefly, if Zimmy and martin
had been of OPPOSITE races (Zimmy black and Martin white)
then woud you have demanded an acquittal ?????





David

Very excellent question Oralloy. I know it has been asked here several times and those who support the beating of Zimmerman don't seem to have an answer. Whatever did happen to the missing 3 or 4 minutes? Looking at maps, it was more then enough time for Martin to get to his fathers girlfriends house.

You shame yourself here, David. You are better than this.

Personally, I see no point, on anyone's part, in continuing to re-hash a long ended criminal case. I've been trying to move onto Zimmerman post-acquittal.

I really think we should shift focus, stop discussing this trial, and discuss the amount of unvarnished racism that permeates this entire thread. I think this legal case has simply become camouflage for the continued expression of racist attitudes by those who champion Zimmerman as some sort of hero. I don't know whether or not Zimmerman is a racist, but I have no doubt about the racist attitudes of these posters--they come through loud and clear. Nor will I buy their crappy, and illogical, rhetorical nonsense about "reverse racism" or "race baiting" when such racism is pointed out to those expressing it.

I regret that A2K has given a platform to such racists--and affords them a haven to express rather vile and offensive ideas and attitudes. What I've seen in this thread is an expression of racism and bigotry and hatred that would certainly serve to drive off most people of color who might wander into this site, and probably is offensive to decent people, of all skin colors, who might read it. And people have already left this site because of the amount of racism that is allowed to thrive here. And most of these posters won't acknowledge their racism, they simply try to deny or rationalize it.

Using the "ignore" function is not the solution to dealing with racist crap of this sort, because it still infects the site in a systemic way. Reasoning and logic are not the way to address it either, because racism and bigotry are not logical or rational attitudes to begin with--they are the product of over-generalized negative stereotyping and personal bias.

When I've been in real-life situations where I find myself in the company of bigots expressing their bigotry, I voice my objection to the remarks, and I leave their company. And that's what I'm considering doing now, leaving this site, or just visiting game threads. It's not just in this thread where racist thoughts are expressed--repeatedly--BillRM, in particular, has a track record for bashing blacks, as well as Muslims, as well as women, in several other threads as well, and I don't think he's overly fond of gays either--he's quite willing to dump contempt and hostility on various groups--which also includes and insults other individual A2K members who are members of such groups.

I agree with you that these are "sick and stupid people"--which is why associating with them becomes a decidedly unpleasant experience--and that's not what I'm looking for when I visit a Web site like this one.

So who do you think gave Zimmy a pulped nose and cut head, Mary Poppins?..

The blimp hangar scene in 'An officer and a Gentleman' graphically depicted how terrifying it must be to have a black on top of you like poor Zimmy..
I'm not an expert on American law but hopefully Zim will be able to sue Martins family for the injuries inflicted on him..

Wow FF, that was a nice post. Too bad it is filled with crap. Voicing an opinion that doesn't match yours doesn't make someone a racist. That is your answer to those who disagree with you. They must either be bigots or racists or woman haters or something that you prescribe to them because they don't agree with you.

I'm not a racist, and I think Martin had it coming, for the simple reason of this: You don't attack someone just because they are following you. Looking at comments made by Martin according to his gal pal, he was the one who made a racist comment, but you clear him of his comment because he is a young black kid. It is a double standard that is hard to swallow.

You haven't noticed any racism in this thread? Are you unconscious?

I have seen some stupid statements, but nothing I would label as blatant racism. Of course I haven't read everything in here so I'm sure there have been some racist comments, but I haven't seen any.

LOL disagreeing with this charming lady turn you into a drunken driver, a drug user, a supporter of rapists and or a rapist yourself and a pedophile and so on.