The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

Admittedly, tho I have not actually DONE it,
I think that harassing burglars on-the-job is a good idea,
but u need to be properly prepared.





David

Firefly, if the roles of the 2 participants
in this incident had been racially reversed,
then woud u have been equally vocal
and supportive of the same results????????

Can you see rallies with federal government funding yet where threats of riots was issues happening if it was a white young hoodlum and a solid black citizen who had acted in self defense????????

Firefly: ... will enter the military and help to defend our country,

I see you are still pumping out the propaganda and pretending you care, ff. you really have no shame.

Including the juror who said, "George Zimmerman got away with murder?"

You have to identify the burglar first; the BEST IDEA.

Any person walking home is not a burglar.

I hope someone with a gun mistakes your child as a burglar and shoots them dead. Maybe, you'll begin to understand the issues involved in stopping innocent people before they are guilty of any crime.

As it happens, we KNOW, what Trayvon was doing walking home, and it was NOT checking out the homes along the way, and he was NOT a burglar as David keeps insinuating. HE WASW TALKING ON HIS CELLPHONE TO HIS FRIEND AND HE WAS ACTING PRECISELY AS PEOPLE ON THEIR CELLPHONES ACT. He was acting DISTRACTED, he was acting NOT NORMALLY as Zimmerman described him to the dispatcher. That is precisely why there is the continuing push to ban cellphone use in cars, because THAT'S THE WAY PEOPLE ON CELLPHONES ACT, as you would know if you have ever in fact watched them in action. I have. I know. they are absorbed in the conversation and not in what is happening in the world around them, or in what their bodies are doing and their eyes are seeing. They walk aimlessly and slowly, they look at anything or nothing. Trees, parking meters, a lighted windoow in the dark. Did you want your parents listening to your phone calls with someone of the opposite sex (or the same sex, if your tastes ran that way) when you were a teen? Yeah, of course you did. Not.

Let me cite an actual example. A friend and I were outside Fenway Park last summer. He was on the phone to a girlfriend, talking animatedly, with gestures. Abruptly he wheeled around, strode briskly as if in a hurry to get somewhere, across the street, toward a souvenir stand, and in the gutter, across the sidewalk, stood staring fixedly at the store's display cabinet for a minute or so, gesturing and seemingly talking to the empty air, then he wheeled left forty five degrees and strode briskly to a police barricade closing off the street, and leaned on that with one arm for a couple minutes, then strode purposefulloy back to his starting point, still makingg the sorts of gestures you make in conversation with someone. He didn't have a Bluetooth headset, as Trayvon did, so you could see the phone he was holding to his ear, but you w3ouldn't have seen that with Trayvon. The point being, he had no interest in the souvenir stand, or the barricade, or the street. He was absorbed in the conversation and acting as if the person he was talking to was there, with the same sorts of gestures people make in face-to-face conversation. What was actually going on in the street had no relevance to him, or any of his attention.

We KNOW Trayvon was on his phone. We KNOW that's the way people actually act in cell phone conversations. Zimmerman projected something that existed only in his own imagination onto Trayvon, and stalked him and ultimately killed him because of it. Zimmerman's vigilante obsessions and his wannabe-cop fantasies of gloriously bringing in a perp, who wasn't a perp but only someone making a snacks run for himself and his brother, ultimately led to the killing that Zimmerman commited.

And Zimmerman didn't even get the burglar(s) who had hit the neighborhood. Trayvon hadn't been there then. Not only did Zimmerman profile someone. He profiled and killed AN INNOCENT PERSON.

How the hell is someone who jumped Zimmerman and try to pound his brain out innocent????????

Yes indeed I do walk slowly in the rain if I am talking on the phone and if I notice that someone is following me I then turn and attacked that person and try to killed him.

Trayvon actions was perfect normal for a hoodlum with a chip on his shoulders at least.

On top of everything, Zimmerman was obsessed with making sure Martin didn't "get away" before the police arrived. But, because he hadn't seen Martin do anything wrong, what on earth did he expect the police to do once they got there? Find out if the kid was trespassing and, if so, ask him to leave the property?

It wouldn't have made any difference if Martin was a trespasser, or if he "got away" and left the property before the police arrived, because he hadn't done anything criminal that Zimmerman observed or that required any action by the police. Even if Martin was a potential burglar "casing" the complex, there was still nothing the police could do, just walking around looking at buildings isn't a crime.

There was no logic in Zimmerman's pursuit of his "suspect" because Martin wasn't even a "perp"--he hadn't perpetrated any criminal acts that Zimmerman knew of--it would have made no difference if he disappeared before the police arrived. Nothing Zimmerman did was really rational or considered. You're right, this was all about his vigilante obsessions and wannabe cop fantasies. Even the chief police investigator on this case said Zimmerman had a "little hero complex".

And maybe Zimmerman needed a scapegoat for his anger and a feeling of self-importance that night. His wife had walked out on him the day before, and he was heavily in debt, so his life wasn't exactly at a high point. When he spotted Trayvon Martin, playing cop may have seemed irresistible to him--he had a chance to be "important" to be a little hero, instead of a man whose wife had had enough of him, and who owed money all over the place.

It's tragic that Zimmerman's uncontrolled personal obsessions and "little hero complex" wound up costing an innocent teen his life--it was a needless and totally avoidable homicide. All Martin was doing was meandering around, and talking on his cell phone, and minding his own business, as he returned from the store--everything else existed only in Zimmerman's mind.

Yes he did.

But people like BillRM can't admit that because it makes shooters look bad, and it takes away from the NRA party-line about why people need to carry guns for self-protection from criminals if Martin wasn't really a criminal and was only a frightened kid who wound up trying to defend himself from the creepy guy who had been stalking him .

Zimmerman can't take responsibility for all of his errors in judgment either--he said, even in retrospect, he wouldn't do anything differently because it was all, "God's plan." If he really believes that, he shouldn't be carrying a gun now.

I'm not sure how many people here have raised boys, but I have. It's a hostile world for teenage boys, black, white, brown or purple. Some of the older men here may have forgotten what's it's like being 14-20 walking in your Dads neighborhood and noticing a heavy-set adult male following him. In the dark I'm not sure Martin could tell he was being stalked by a virtuous, well intentioned white male. He might have wondered if he might be being stalked by a sexual predator, a man intent to rob a smaller male.....and we will never know because he was shot by a vigilante.

Zimmerman is still sucking air, free to threaten his wife...then later running his new girlfriend out of her own home at gun point. However, he was probably was never put on detention like some of those unsavory high school teens. My son had to go to summer school when he was 15, he was too cool for school. I suppose I should thank my lucky stars that some 30 something asshole didn't decide to cut his life short for being a stupid 15 year old boy. Now he's been married for 10 years, we have a wonderful (but exhausting) 3 year old grand daughter, I'm glad he never ran into a Zimmerman from the HOA who decided he was a threat to the neighborhood. Martin's parents will never know how things would have turned out. Zimmerman decided he was trouble, and for some folks apparently that was just fine.

NO. He killed a person that was GUILTY
of attempted murder.

Are you fellows so old you don't remember how people get nuts when they see a lone young male walking in the dark? Very, very sad. All I had to do when I was a 17 year old girl, was avoid every good damn place where there were older males who viewed me as a piece of meat. In fact, that concern never abated, I could write volumes about the abuses attempted and those that were unwelcome but forced on me. And so could every other woman who posts here. Obscene phones stopped with the advent of caller ID. However, you can see for yourselves how you gentlemen treat women. It's a sad state of affairs.

A potentially threatening skinny teen who only had his hands to protect him. Saint Zimmerman was packing. You can never really be safe when skinny teen boys are around. Thank God for pussies like Zimmerman who keep the streets safe from skinny teen boys, by ignoring police instructions and taking matters into his own glorious hands (while packing). I'm sure most of you he-men would love to be shot by a thug stalking you. Some of you might have traffic tickets, you are asking for it. Zimmerman will take care of that.

So the warning is no longer lock up your daughters to keep them safe, it's lock up your teenagers so stupid f@@ks like Zimmerman trolling around seeking out evil doers won't shoot them to death.

Too bad you can not enjoy the wonder of having a so call skinny teenager sucker punch you knocking you to the ground and then getting on top of you and pounding your head into the sidewalk.

Bet it does not even hurt as after all it only a skinny teenager trying to killed you.

You do know that they found pictures of naked under age girls on Trayvon phone?

Would seem you do not need to be an old male to viewed girls as pieces of meat.

ever heard of sexting, bill? It's what teen GIRLS and boys do these days with cellphones. It's what Disney's squeaky-clean 16 year old Vanessa Hutchins sent to her boyfriend, Zach Efron.

I did not deem it hostile in the least.
I recall it as tho it were yesterday; clearly.
I was afraid of exactly ONE thing, to wit:
asking out a young lady named Joyce, descended of the Austrian
Aristocracy, her father told me. Nothing else evoked fear from me
(except the communists).



Kiddest thou me ??
That happened every day,
in fair weather n foul, by day or by nite,
by lots of guys following me. I expected it, did not think 2ice about it.
I did not feel threatened. I never even considered drawing out my gun.
It never occurred to me that there was anything rong with being followed.



If he did not like it, then he shud have gone home.
He had plenty of time for it; he was right there, within a short space.
Perhaps he actually DID, and then returned to confront the innocent Zimmy,
so he coud brag to his MMA about pounding a white. (Sorry, Bill.)




Y do u imagine he did not ask his friend
to call 911 for him??? or do it HIMSELF??? Whatayathink about that, Glitterbag???



A vigilante whose head he chanced to be slamming
on the cement, like a basketball player.






DESPITE MARTIN'S BEST EFFORTS.



Zimmy killed him defensively, for attempted murder,
not for having a low I.Q., Glitterbag.



All he 'd need to do was be polite,
or at least non-violent, un-like Martin.
That happened to me last August in NY, in the middle of the nite.
I just kidded with the guy who confronted me; we laffed it off; nice.



Yea, Zimmy figured that out
while the thug was pounding his head on the street.



Yes, because Zimmy ended the threat!


I just hope that after all this,
Zimmy sees the light and gets himself a better gun.

Yes, I hear of sex textings and I hear of the sharing and passing back and forth of such pictures between guys who girlfriends was so stupid as to trust their boyfriends.

I also hear of girls taking their lives after their pictures got into general circulation.

Trayvon had pictures not a picture of naked underage girls on that cell phone.

Oh common or not common having those pictures are still a state and a federal felony.